# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4385 "2021-10-29T18:41:34Z")

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> [@Trisha\_Gaurav](#):
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> they make Native American noises at each other

…I’m sorry… WHAT?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4386 "2021-10-29T19:23:44Z")

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It was just today I learned that Tom Kenny, the actor who voices the Ice King on _Adventure Time_, also voices Spongebob Squarepants.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4387 "2021-10-29T21:16:17Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> …I’m sorry… WHAT?

Ugh. Wampum. That sort of thing.

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4388 "2021-10-30T17:56:18Z")

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Also Plastic Man in the _Justice League Action_ cartoon.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4389 "2021-10-30T18:29:07Z")

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He was also a cast member on the sketch comedy _Mr. Show_. [Here he is as a Satanic televangelist.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cku497rURF8) He’s the one in the big white wig.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4390 "2021-10-30T18:43:07Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> > [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> > …I’m sorry… WHAT?
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> Ugh. Wampum. That sort of thing.

“Ugh” and “Wampum” were **exactly** the two words I was about to post. Great minds think alike.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4391 "2021-11-01T16:24:13Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It was just today I learned that Tom Kenny, the actor who voices the Ice King on _Adventure Time_ , also voices Spongebob Squarepants.

I was watching the latest season of _Final Space_ and trying to figure out why one of the character voices sounded so familiar. Finally realized that it was Kenny doing a voice that was Ice King-adjacent.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4392 "2021-11-12T06:49:42Z")

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I’ve watched most episodes of TBBT several times, and I finally realized that Zack is not really stupid, he’s just ignorant. Most of the time when he asks someone a question, it would be an intelligent question from the framework of someone who only knows what he sees on TV or movies. “Are you gonna blow up the moon?” He’s seen lasers in movies and that’s all he knows, and from that framework, it’s not a stupid question. (This is aside from the fact that he sold his – presumably now dead – father’s company for a lot of money, married an appropriate woman, and is living large on a big boat.)

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4393 "2021-11-17T18:06:30Z")

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So, I’m re-reading the Kinsey Millhone mysteries for the zillionth time, and I’m up to “N is for Noose”, which takes place, in the main, in a town called Nota Lake. One of the residence tells her that “Nota”, in the name of the town, means a brand that marks a criminal. During the course of the book, Kinsey is attacked in her hotel room by the villain of the book, and she defends herself by turning on the iron in her hotel room and touching it to the attacker’s skin, which leaves a mark, something she later uses to identify the villain.

Until now, I didn’t realize that the villain was being branded, as per the name of the town.

Also, the name of the villain is Brant, which I suppose was intentionally meant to sound like “brand”

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4394 "2021-11-17T19:07:59Z")

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Sounds like the set up for an Abbott and Costello skit.  
“If it’s Nota town, then what is it?”

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4395 "2021-11-17T19:41:52Z")

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Never even thought that way…assumed it was pronounced with a long “o”.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4396 "2021-11-18T09:43:31Z")

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> [@furryman](#):
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> Sounds like the set up for an Abbott and Costello skit.  
> “If it’s Nota town, then what is it?”

It _is_ a town. It’s just Nota Lake.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4397 "2021-11-25T06:26:20Z")

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I can’t claim to have figured this out; I just read it.

The song “Chop Suey” by System of a Down has nothing to do with Chinese food. But it does mention suicide.

The band didn’t want to title the song “Suicide” so they chopped the word suicide in half and titled it “Chop Suey”.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4398 "2021-11-25T11:34:44Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The song “Chop Suey” by System of a Down has nothing to do with Chinese food

Well, Serj did eat some in the video. Very sarcastically.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4399 "2021-11-29T00:11:04Z")

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When I was 17 I had a bedroom which was painted all black, had no windows, and only had a person-sized one of these painted on the wall (without the letters).

It was the greatest room ever. I slept like a fucking rock.

And today? 45 years after the album’s release?

I just realized… five minutes ago… it’s a damned guitar.

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51711689976_ff02fcfa3c_b.jpg "20211128\_180553") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51711689976/)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4400 "2021-11-29T00:12:00Z")

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I mean, it’s not like it’s hidden or anything… I just never looked behind the flames. 😛😜🤪

So, yes, ladies, you are absolutely correct: men look, but rarely see.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4401 "2021-11-29T00:22:21Z")

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😂 Thanks, that’s a classic.

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In my defense it has four strings in front, but 6 tuning knobs on the handle. I wuz confused!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4403 "2021-11-29T00:46:11Z")

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Not my first time…

> [@Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/3750):
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> In my entire life, I do not think anyone has ever commented re: the rather obvious testicles on the cover of Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours: [[Google Photos] ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/B6Vnt357PixTGaDBA) And, no, it wasn’t an accident: [[Google Photos] ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/KC6GWCVJCjeD5EWf9)[[Google Photos] ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/gVtPrw9EfsYs4PaE7)

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4404 "2021-11-29T03:19:53Z")

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Well, I must be blind, because I’m not seeing it…

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