# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 240
**Author:** ![Reeses\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reeses_monkey/32/2885_2.png) [@Reeses\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeses_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4785 "2022-03-20T00:48:57Z")
You spelled “Gene Simmons” wrong ---
**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4786 "2022-03-20T01:40:16Z")
I don’t know. The “cool” guys were the guitarists/lead singers. Drummers seemed to be the “wacky” ones in the sixties/seventies. Ringo was the kind of goofy one in the Beatles, Keith Moon in the Who. I don’t think Filmation put much thought into the temperament as much as the general image of a band or really into the instruments themselves and how they are played. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4787 "2022-03-20T10:23:42Z")
Fact: These two men had the same job, just 300 years apart. Who was better, tho? [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51950035465_b8860958c5_b.jpg "images") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51950035465/) [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51949429451_c1af82f428_z.jpg "p3496658\_n284934\_cc\_v9\_ab") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51949429451/) ---
**Author:** ![RickG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rickg/32/5174_2.png) [@RickG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickG)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4788 "2022-03-20T16:04:32Z")
I was a kid in the 1970s when the Armour Hot Dog commercial jingle was inescapable on TV. And I watched a lot of TV. So it’s pretty well burned into my brain. Last night, we were having bougie hot dogs for dinner (pineapple-chicken sausages on wood-oven baked baguette) and the jingle popped into my head. I started singing it, much to my spouse’s annoyance, when I realized the final line is a “man bites dog” joke. Fifty years it took me to get that. Also, the lyrics did not age well: > [@](#): > > What kind of kids eat Armour hot dogs? > Fat kids, skinny kids, kids who climb on rocks, > Tough kids, sissy kids, even kids with chicken pox > love hot dogs, Armour Hot Dogs, the dogs kids love to bite. While there’s an attempt to be universal here (all **kinds** of kids love 'em!), I don’t think the language would fly today. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4789 "2022-03-20T18:44:46Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > It occurred to me that most of the cartoons that I remember from the 60’s were actually reruns from the 70’s. I was disappointed to find out as an adult that I had been watching _The Mickey Mouse Club_ in reruns. Only about 5 years later, but still… ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4790 "2022-03-20T18:56:08Z")
> [@RickG](#): > > Also, the lyrics did not age well: > > > [@](#): > > > > What kind of kids eat Armour hot dogs? > > > > > Fat kids, skinny kids, kids who climb on rocks, > > > Tough kids, sissy kids, even kids with chicken pox > > > love hot dogs, Armour Hot Dogs, the dogs kids love to bite. > > While there’s an attempt to be universal here (all **kinds** of kids love 'em!), I don’t think the language would fly today. [![](https://i.imgur.com/3arI9WJ.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/3arI9WJ.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4791 "2022-03-25T13:03:09Z")
Not “Obvious” but i learned Lisa Gerrard, on Gladiator’s “Now We Are Free” (and a great deal of her work)…isn’t singing Italian or Latin or Greek or Sumerian but a made-up language of her own. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4792 "2022-03-26T01:35:14Z")
A lot of Enya’s songs are in a language of her own, too. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4793 "2022-03-26T01:38:21Z")
And many of the songs in Cirque du Soleil. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4794 "2022-03-26T02:42:54Z")
Many people have tried to make sense of the line “Ah, bowakawa, pousse pousse” in John Lennon’s “#9 Dream”. But Lennon said the words just came to him in a dream and had no meaning. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4795 "2022-03-26T16:06:59Z")
Sun King Cuando para mucho mi amore de felice corazón Mundo paparazzi mi amore chicka ferdy parasol Questo obrigado tanta mucho que can eat it carousel ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4796 "2022-03-26T16:32:59Z")
OK, that first line looks like something like “How much more my love of the fortune of my heart”, which looks like it’s at least mostly Italian or maybe Spanish, and could plausibly be a love song… but that second and third line just completely fall apart in every way. “The world of tabloid reporters my love…”, and then whatever the heck “chicka ferdy” is, in whatever language, and then a French umbrella? “Obrigado” brings in yet another language, Portuguese, and I don’t think that “can eat it” is anything other than English. ---
**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4797 "2022-03-26T16:45:32Z")
I spent years trying to figure out the female background vocals in Billy Idol’s _Eyes Without a Face_." Then one day, thanks to the Internet, I saw them in writing - “Les yeux sans visage.” It had never occurred to me that they might be in some language other than English. It all makes perfect sense now. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4798 "2022-03-26T17:10:37Z")
In _Games Without Frontiers_ by Peter Gabriel, I could clearly hear Kate Bush singing, “she’s so popular”. She was actually singing, “_Jeux sans frontières._” ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4799 "2022-03-26T17:16:17Z")
Would [this](http://beatlesong.info/mg/sun_king_deciphered.html) be of any help? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4800 "2022-03-26T17:28:59Z")
I heard, “She’s so funky, yeah” ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4801 "2022-03-27T04:26:56Z")
I think there’s more than a few songs where i just heard what I thought would be the most thematic, such as on “Telephone Line” rather then “Doo-wop, do-be-do-do-wop Doo-wa-doo-da” I heard “Do what , do what you liiiike” And yes on Games Without Frontiers…I thought she was saying “She’s so popular” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4802 "2022-03-27T05:18:42Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Sun King > > Cuando para mucho mi amore de felice corazón > Mundo paparazzi mi amore chicka ferdy parasol > Questo obrigado tanta mucho que can eat it carousel [“Chicka ferdy” apparently means “fuck off”.](https://www.thesound.co.nz/home/music/2020/09/paul-mccartney-sun-king-naughty-message.html) ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4803 "2022-03-27T16:42:16Z")
In **Dances with Wolves** , Kevin Costner’s character goes to great lengths to express the idea of buffalo. He stuffs something under his shirt to make a hump on his back and scratches around in the dirt on hands and knees before Graham Greene’s character realizes what he’s on about. The thing is, his diary was full of well-drawn illustrations, so why didn’t he just draw a buffalo? ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4804 "2022-03-27T17:45:33Z")
The Flintstones episode where Fred and Barney buy a drive-in restaurant, the little ditty the car-hops sing has the line, “Our burgers can’t be beat, 'cause we grind our own meat. Grind, grind, grind, grind, grind.” Then there’s a whistle like you’d hear at a burlesque house when the stripper does a bump or tosses a piece of clothing into the audience _after a rambunctious (hopefully) GRIND_! A small double-entendre for Dad? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=239) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=241)