# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4905 "2022-07-29T13:52:29Z")

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> [@Pavelb1](#):
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> In Shore Leave…when Angela Martine and Rodriguez are strafed, Martine is suppossed to have been hit and killed. I thought she ran into a tree and knocked herself out. It never occurred to me that they showed a woman being machine gunned down in the back.

I think that I always realized that she was supposed to have been shot by the plane. But you’re right, the way it was filmed, it really did look like she bonked into the tree and knocked herself out.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4906 "2022-07-29T14:14:21Z")

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^ You weren’t even in that episode! 😆

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4907 "2022-07-29T14:17:23Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Watching the final scene of the Sopranos on YouTube and had the shocking realization that Tony Soprano was killed by future Ukranian President Zelenskyy:

It looks like him, and he was after all an actor, but IMDb doesn’t credit him for it.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4908 "2022-07-29T14:19:28Z")

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(It’s a joke. I thought a rather obvious one! 😋 )

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4909 "2022-07-29T14:19:38Z")

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True, but my library has very complete information!

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4910 "2022-07-29T21:36:09Z")

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^ Still up to your little game of replicas? Which are you this time, real or not? 😉

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4911 "2022-07-30T16:01:02Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Watching the final scene of the Sopranos on YouTube and had the shocking realization that Tony Soprano was killed by future Ukranian President Zelenskyy

> [@JohnT](#):
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> (It’s a joke. I thought a rather obvious one! 😋 )

Don’t do that! I sent a screenshot of that to a film buff friend, asking if he knew about this, before you admitted it wasn’t true. Now I have to apologize, and he’s going to pillory me to our friends.

Couldn’t you say you’re kidding right away? A spoiler in the same post, maybe?

I think I’ll just say nothing, hope he never opened my email, and wait for Schrödinger’s cartoon anvil to fall on my head…

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4912 "2022-07-30T21:09:20Z")

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Yeah, it didn’t seem too implausible to me that a then-obscure Ukrainian actor might pick up a bit part like that. What he was doing in the States for filming, I don’t know, but that’s a minor detail.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4913 "2022-07-30T21:58:16Z")

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Oh, I thought that actor only looked enough like him to be mildly reminiscent of Zelenzkyy.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4914 "2022-07-30T22:30:26Z")

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I asked the mods to tag the post. I didn’t mean to cause confusion, figuring the end of the Sopranos was 15 years ago. My apologies.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4915 "2022-07-31T02:32:26Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Yeah, it didn’t seem too implausible to me that a then-obscure Ukrainian actor might pick up a bit part like that. What he was doing in the States for filming, I don’t know, but that’s a minor detail.

Kind of implausible that the president of Ukraine was involved in one of the biggest TV shows of its day, and this is the first place you’ve heard of it. No way that wouldn’t have been included in all those stories about the political comedy show he did before he got elected president.

Also, that guy looks like Zelenskyy aged up about ten years, and is from a show that ended fifteen years ago.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4916 "2022-07-31T18:08:23Z")

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See, it’s a time- traveling President Zelenskyy.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4917 "2022-07-31T20:02:44Z")

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Rick and Zelenskyy

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4918 "2022-08-01T00:32:28Z")

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Hasn’t Rick stated that he doesn’t time travel, he just travels between dimensions? Although if that’s the case, why does he have a box on the shelf in the garage labeled “Time Travel Stuff”?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4919 "2022-08-01T00:45:55Z")

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That was when he went to the time-travel dimension, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4920 "2022-08-01T01:56:16Z")

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He doesn’t do it because he thinks it’s stupid not because he _can’t_ do it.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4921 "2022-08-01T02:00:42Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Hasn’t Rick stated that he doesn’t time travel, he just travels between dimensions? Although if that’s the case, why does he have a box on the shelf in the garage labeled “Time Travel Stuff”?

There was one episode where he showed Morty what happens if you use time travel.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4922 "2022-08-01T11:30:14Z")

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Was that the one with the snakes or a different one?

Snake jazz is my new jam.

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4923 "2022-08-01T17:51:13Z")

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There’s two episodes in the same season. One has time travel and the ludicrousness of the Terminator stuff cause ‘terminator snakes’ just keep appearing until they can get it right. And in another ep Morty thinks he’s resetting time in a kind loop-back thing, but he later finds out he’s just travelling to another dimension and getting a lot of Morty’s killed and such.

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**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4924 "2022-08-02T20:45:39Z")

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Just realized ‘spaz’ is (supposedly??..I guess) short for spasms.

I always just pictured the muppet Animal when I thought of spaz. Who I never thought of as having spasms but more like a kid high on sugar.

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