# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)

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**Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
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Spaz is a slur based on “spastic” people.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4926 "2022-08-02T23:44:38Z")

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Rick = Doc Brown

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4927 "2022-08-03T09:26:17Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> Spaz is a slur based on “spastic” people.

In the US people have forgotten the origins of the insult and it’s sort of morphed into a generic, mildly rude “energetically uncoordinated” insult (and not even always an insult).

In the UK it is very much remembered that it’s a nasty slur against people with cerebral palsy. Hence the recent reversals and apologies from Beyonce and Lizzo (and, a while back, even Weird Al).

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4928 "2022-08-03T09:56:57Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> In the US people have forgotten the origins of the insult and it’s sort of morphed into a generic, mildly rude “energetically uncoordinated” insult (and not even always an insult).

Yes and no. There are a lot of Americans who never used the term. There are a lot of them who learned within the past few years that it is considered offensive. The apology from Weird Al Yankovic was in 2014, so there has knowledge of how offensive it is since at least then. So there is knowledge of the problems with the term since at least then, although the knowledge isn’t as great as in the U.K.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4929 "2022-08-03T10:32:44Z")

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> [@Pavelb1](#):
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> I always just pictured the muppet Animal when I thought of spaz

I’m not aware of a Muppet named Spaz. Perhaps on a non-English version of them?

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4930 "2022-08-03T12:08:18Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> I’m not aware of a Muppet named Spaz. Perhaps on a non-English version of them?

@Pavelb1 was clearly referring to the muppet **called** Animal, who I think they are saying acted in a way that they associate with the term **spaz**.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4931 "2022-08-03T14:39:03Z")

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Got it! The Muppet “Animal.”

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4932 "2022-08-03T18:27:02Z")

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Huh. I missed all three of those apologies. Good to learn. I never knew by of the associations.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4933 "2022-08-05T23:06:31Z")

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Just realized last night that the title of 80s vampire film _The Lost Boys_ is a Peter Pan reference.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4934 "2022-08-08T11:43:58Z")

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That’s a little surprising. They point out the Peter Pan parallels throughout the film.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4935 "2022-08-08T11:47:54Z")

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Tbf Miller didn’t say he missed all of them, just that he missed one.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4936 "2022-08-08T12:14:49Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> That’s a little surprising. They point out the Peter Pan parallels throughout the film.

This thread is about OBVIOUS things that people missed.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4937 "2022-08-08T12:52:19Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> This thread is about OBVIOUS things that people missed.

It’s still surprising

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4938 "2022-08-08T13:00:16Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> This thread is about OBVIOUS things that people missed.

There’s “obvious” and then there’s “It’s literally on the movie poster” obvious 😃

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**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\
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“What is a “movie poster,” Grandpa?”

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4940 "2022-08-08T13:32:29Z")

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It’s someone who posts about movies, obviously.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4941 "2022-08-08T16:04:34Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> There’s “obvious” and then there’s “It’s literally on the movie poster” obvious 😃

There have been posts in this thread about obvious things on movie posters that people missed.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4942 "2022-08-12T03:44:41Z")

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Ok, I get it’s a short shot and “Otisburg” is the obvious joke, but

HOW DID I MISS TESCHMACHER PEAKS???

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52279943723_8e93b62099_w.jpg "20220811\_223542") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/52279943723/)

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4943 "2022-08-12T14:30:15Z")

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“_Otis_burg?!”

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“Miss Teschmacher, she’s got her own place.”

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