# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 249
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4965 "2022-08-22T13:31:31Z")
I almost put that disclaimer in, then thought “But won’t someone here enjoy bringing up that episode? I don’t want to deprive them of the fun part.” Thanks for not letting me down. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4966 "2022-08-22T15:40:53Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > It is. > > My guess is that it comes from the phrase “Born with a silver spoon in her mouth”, meaning that she was a rich kid who thought she could get away with anything. Maybe it has no literal meaning, like “the movement you need is on your shoulder.” ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4967 "2022-08-22T15:51:12Z")
My mind immediately went to a cocaine spoon, as it does with the line from _Witchy Woman_, “She drove herself to madness with a silver spoon.” ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4968 "2022-08-22T15:57:42Z")
Or “Gold Dust Woman”, “take your silver spoon, dig your grave” ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4969 "2022-08-22T16:21:32Z")
Glad I wasn’t the only one! ---
**Author:** ![Author\_Balk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Author\_Balk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Author_Balk)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4970 "2022-08-22T17:05:20Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > My mind immediately went to a cocaine spoon, as it does with the line from _Witchy Woman_, “She drove herself to madness with a silver spoon.” Out of curiosity I checked out Witchy Woman. According to places on the internet (which often isn’t reliable) the song was inspired by a biography about Zelda Fitzgerald, the wife of F. Scott Fitzgerald. She was put in a mental hospital (drove to madness). The silver spoon may be a reference to absinthe. That is from internet sources. I don’t have any knowledge on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4971 "2022-08-22T20:04:44Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Maybe it has no literal meaning, like “the movement you need is on your shoulder.” Ob-la-di, ob-la-da Life goes on, brah ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4972 "2022-08-22T20:31:30Z")
Maybe a little off for this thread, but I am doing voice editing on my podcast and something obvious which I didn’t realize is that every hour I spend scripting is 2+ hours I don’t have to waste editing. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4973 "2022-08-22T21:35:37Z")
A post was split to a new topic: [How Do I Put My Words Into Expression?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-i-put-my-words-into-expression/970117) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4974 "2022-08-22T23:41:48Z")
> [@Author\_Balk](#): > > An obvious thing I realized a couple of days ago… > I know what muses are, I know what music is. But, I never correlated muse and music. If I was told I forgot it. Also [museum](https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=museum), and [mosaic](https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=mosaic). ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4975 "2022-08-23T02:16:27Z")
…mussels, Muscatel, Stan Musial… ---
**Author:** ![Author\_Balk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Author\_Balk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Author_Balk)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4976 "2022-08-23T02:41:18Z")
I didn’t know museum or mosaic either. Thank you for the information. You learn something new every day (hopefully). ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4977 "2022-08-23T02:53:49Z")
> **[She Came In Through The Bathroom Window](https://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/she-came-in-through-the-bathroom-window/)** > > Written by: Lennon-McCartney Recorded: 25, 28, 30 July 1969 Producer: George Martin Engineers: Geoff Emerick, Phil McDonald Released: 26 September 1969 (UK), 1 October 1969 (US) Available on: Abbey Road Anthology 3 Personnel Paul McCartney: vocals,... Here is the story. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4978 "2022-08-23T10:19:28Z")
I recently learned that guitar pioneer Les Paul’s first name was “Lester”. I always just assumed he was French. ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4979 "2022-08-23T18:17:26Z")
Maybe it’s an urban legend, but I heard that Fitzgerald committed his wife unjustly so he could go out with other women. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4980 "2022-08-23T23:55:50Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > every hour I spend scripting is 2+ hours I don’t have to waste editing. At the ad agency where I art directed, the TV commercial guys saw my cartoons and asked if i could do them a storyboard. I said _Sure!_ (I figured, it’s basically a comic strip that takes up sixty seconds). “Can you do us one…umm, now?” as the camera crew showed up, ready to go. Not only did I get to go along on the shoot (I’d pointed out places in the commercial where the lighting or setting or props would be crucial), but going forward I got to do a couple of storyboards a week. Because they figured out my fifteen minutes of pre-planning equalled three hours of time saved. At videographers’ (and the crew’s) day rates, it paid off. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4981 "2022-08-26T05:59:42Z")
In the Simon and Garfunkel song _Big Bright Green Pleasure Machine_, they ask “Are you worried that your girlfriend’s just a little late?” I’ve been singing along to that song for fifty years, and I always took it to mean “Are you worried that your girlfriend is standing you up for a date?” and NOT “Are you worried that she might be pregnant?” I was a naive fifteen-year old. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4982 "2022-08-26T19:16:35Z")
My WAG is that it is a double meaning since back in those days I would be totally blissfully ignorant of a GFs cycle. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4983 "2022-08-26T19:26:39Z")
Back in those days, the GF would inform you if she was late. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/4984 "2022-08-26T20:22:48Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > back in those days I would be totally blissfully ignorant of a GFs cycle. I miss not having to understand anything about women… . (But I appreciate the education you’ve given me, dear!) In case my wife reads this after I’m dead… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=248) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=250)