# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 252
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5025 "2022-10-22T18:12:07Z")
Objective dates are like life preservers in a stormy sea. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5026 "2022-10-24T16:57:23Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > I was a background actor lying in a pool of artificial blood, and during the set up quoted the Lady; “Who would have thought the old man had so much blood in him?” The director didn’t mind small talk during the set ups, but the Scottish play was right out. I’m well-acquainted with the theatrical prohibition of uttering the title “Mac—-“ in a theatre, but I guess I’ve never personally heard of a superstition about speaking lines from the play. It’s not surprising, per se, I’ve just never heard of anyone taking it that far. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5027 "2022-10-24T18:33:24Z")
TikTok’s algorithms took me to a content creator who is a drag queen and makes videos about counting, equations, and other mathematical tidbits. It too me several videos to figure out her name. Carrie The One ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5028 "2022-10-24T18:52:11Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Not a millionth time, and not me, but me and my wife were watching Season 8 of _The Brokenwood Mysteries_ last night. I mentioned something about a Maori character and my wife turned to me and said “Isn’t this set in Ireland?” That’s right, we already watched seven seasons and she never picked up on that. I thought it was set in [New Zealand](https://www.mysteryscenemag.com/article/5023-brokenwood-mysteries-a-trip-to-new-zealand). ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5029 "2022-10-24T19:00:51Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > I’ve written the definitive history of Gnome Press to be put up online soon,… Please let us know! ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5030 "2022-10-24T19:04:22Z")
Thanks. I will. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5031 "2022-10-24T19:36:02Z")
[Actors are awfully superstitious about The Scottish Play](https://youtu.be/h--HR7PWfp0) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5032 "2022-10-25T16:20:35Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I thought it was set in [New Zealand](https://www.mysteryscenemag.com/article/5023-brokenwood-mysteries-a-trip-to-new-zealand). That’s where the Māori are from. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5033 "2022-10-25T16:31:57Z")
I’m confused. I thought @mordecaiB said their wife believed it was set in Ireland? OH. I get it now. Never mind. 😳 ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5034 "2022-10-25T16:49:11Z")
> [@EnolaStraight](#): > > Han enters a ladder tube going UP and Luke descends DOWN the ladder. > Moments later, the tube is presented horizontally. > ??? > > I now realize, since the Falcon has artificial gravity, Han can put UP and DOWN _wherever it is convenient for him!_ One of my favorite small bits in film. You wouldn’t guess that Star Wars could be so subtle about something… ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5035 "2022-10-25T17:56:45Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Thanks. I will. I’m looking forward to this. Gnome/Greenberg figured a lot in my early science fiction reading. I’d love to hear some of the background involved. > [@EnolaStraight](#): > > I now realize, since the Falcon has artificial gravity, Han can put UP and DOWN _wherever it is convenient for him!_ Good one, that never occurred to me. At least I have the excuse of only seeing the original trilogy twice, decades apart. I wonder how many fanboys missed this. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5036 "2022-10-25T19:15:29Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > > > I thought it was set in [New Zealand](https://www.mysteryscenemag.com/article/5023-brokenwood-mysteries-a-trip-to-new-zealand). > > That’s where the Māori are from. I will admit the actors pronounce the word with what I assume is a more accurate pronunciation than I do, so, at first, I wouldn’t understand what they were saying. But that took me like a couple of episodes to tune my ear? I’m still laughing at his wife though. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5037 "2022-10-28T07:38:21Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > I’m still laughing at his wife though. 😉 That’s okay, I’m still laughing too. I think I’ll get a lot of mileage out of this one. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5038 "2022-10-30T03:28:39Z")
I’m watching **The Rocky Horror Picture Show** right now and I just noticed that Brad gets tuned into a nude statue he’s uncircumcised. Which is normal for that style of statue, but a bit unusual for a male WASP of Brad’s generation. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5039 "2022-10-31T03:38:04Z")
“Buy me some peanuts and Cracker Jack” is unnecessary. Cracker Jack already has peanuts in it. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5040 "2022-10-31T07:07:59Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Asimov would almost certainly not used “Fuck Eando Binder” in his family-friendly bio, so that may not be conclusive. I agree. I did read Asimov’s bio (both volumes) for the first time last year and the version I gave wasn’t in there. But many years ago I read it in something else Asimov himself wrote. Asimov’s sense of what was right and Greenberg’s harsh response made a distinct impression on me. Unfortunately, I’ve forgotten the context. If I come across it, I’ll post it here. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5041 "2022-10-31T13:08:01Z")
Yes, but ‘peanuts’ is referring to a bag of salted in the shell ones, which are the only aisle vended item that it is safe for the seller to toss to you. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5042 "2022-10-31T13:26:24Z")
Sure, it is possible to buy both peanuts and Cracker Jack. It just seems kind of unnecessary to order two different forms of peanuts, unless you’re doing some kind of “peanuts at the ballpark” episode of your peanuts podcast for the Peanut Marketing Board. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5043 "2022-10-31T13:30:21Z")
There are relatively few peanuts in a box of Cracker Jack, and they are coated in a (tasty) sugary glaze. If you want actual peanuts, you need to buy the bag of peanuts. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5044 "2022-10-31T13:39:02Z")
Cracker Jack is a sweet snack; peanuts are a salty snack. They are completely different animals. Why some one would want both at the same time, I’ll leave as an exercise for the reader. The song as written certainly scans better than: ``` Buy me some peanuts and light beer. I don't care is nobody's near. ``` [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=251) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=253)