# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 262
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5227 "2023-01-12T11:21:56Z")
Lion, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5228 "2023-01-12T12:31:54Z")
Viceroy, possibly. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5229 "2023-01-12T12:35:23Z")
Given his reputed origins, he chose, well… human. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5230 "2023-01-12T12:39:16Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Lion, obviously. But not, it must be stressed, a _tame_ lion. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5231 "2023-01-12T12:59:22Z")
I have read To Kill a Mockingbird countless times over the last thirty years. Last night I suddenly had a revelation. At the end of the book, when Heck Tate is demonstrating how Bob Ewell fell on his knife, he pulls out a switchblade to show how it might have been done. Atticus asks him where he got the knife. Heck says he took it off a drunk. And that’s when I finally figured out that he took the switchblade off Bob Ewell’s body. For some reason, I always believed the story he told about Ewell finding a kitchen knife in the dump. No, he had the switchblade. The other knife came from the Radley’s kitchen. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5232 "2023-01-12T13:08:23Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > What sort of animal do you think Jesus was? Canonically, a lamb But a really kick-ass lamb who absolutely hates money-changers ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5233 "2023-01-12T14:45:31Z")
Lambs can grow up to be rams, and one thing I learned on my Grandfather’s farm is the **you do not fuck with the rams.** ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5234 "2023-01-12T15:18:40Z")
A bee. As in “what the bee-Jesus?” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5235 "2023-01-13T01:09:30Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Lambs can grow up to be rams, and one thing I learned on my Grandfather’s farm is the **you do not fuck with the rams.** But on the other hand, ewe absolutely do fuck with the rams. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5236 "2023-01-13T01:34:57Z")
Not after we’re done with the rams. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5237 "2023-01-14T05:11:12Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Lion, obviously. Well, they DID run The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe on the Disney Channel a lot, back in the day…and then they made their own version… So, if we work from that angle, in at least 66.6% of his distinct incarnations across the universe, Jesus was a talking lion. Ergo, Jesus is likely a furry. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/k1BJdgY0GCY/hqdefault.jpg) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/k1BJdgY0GCY/hqdefault.jpg) _“That is LOGIC, is it NOT!?”_ … ('Pretty sure that’s poor logic, math, AND theology, actually) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5238 "2023-01-14T20:03:33Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > What sort of animal do you think Jesus was? > > I’m guessing “stoat.” Skunk. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5239 "2023-01-15T07:02:42Z")
A few years ago I finally realized that the music played when Rob Petrie gets involved with the law on [The Dick Van Dyke Show - Season 3, Episode 12 - The Sound of Trumpets... - Full Episode - YouTube](https://youtu.be/JHxu5Z3Fmi4?t=348) is almost the same as when law enforcement gets serious on the Andy Griffith Show. [Andy's earned authority - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4sUvxsIFDs) This is because Earle Hagen did the music for both shows. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5240 "2023-01-15T15:44:52Z")
Never noticed watching the movie but saw a [youtube documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD4fWbgdZN8) last night and realized that the MC of the Playboy show in Apocalypse Now was [Bill Graham](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Graham_(promoter)). ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5241 "2023-01-16T03:31:18Z")
The Martian poll in the “Polls only” thread reminded me, I only recently realized the Loony Toons character Marvin the Martian’s appearance is reminiscent of a Roman centurion… because Mars is the Roman god of war. I mean it’s not really something you’d expect me to figure out as a child, but it’s one of those things that you realize when you missed when you rewatch stuff as an adult. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2023, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5242 "2023-01-16T22:23:43Z")
A I mentioned on this Board (in this thread, in fact, I think), as a kid I hadn’t noticed that the Sheriff of Nottingham in the cartoon _Rabbit Hood_ is wearing a classic US Western-style hat (with a star) , vest (also with star) and boots, along with Elizabethan ruff around his neck and pantaloons. Also an Olde English long hairstyle, but with a Western -style moustache. His costume combines elements of an Old WEst sheriff with things from English historical costume (although not period-accurate. For any period.) [![](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_Hood#/media/File:RabbHood.jpg) ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_Hood#/media/File:RabbHood.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5243 "2023-02-02T00:41:34Z")
Christopher Lloyd’s amplifier in _Back to the Future_ has the same model number as the “CRM-114 Discriminator” in _Dr. Strangelove_ (and the 1958 novel). ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5244 "2023-02-02T20:21:46Z")
She Talks to Angels Song by The Black Crowes “She paints her eyes as black as night now _She pulls her shades down tight_ Girl, give a smile when the pain come Pain, the only thing don’t make it alright” Not that I ever gave it a lot of thought, but I always assumed it was window shades. It’s sunglasses. Just dawned on me today… ::smack head:: ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5245 "2023-02-02T20:59:47Z")
I ponder that every time I hear the song. Also, I thought the lyric went: She gives a smile when the pain comes The pain’s gonna make everything all right As in, she’s shooting up drugs with a needle. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5246 "2023-02-02T23:52:34Z")
You are probably correct. I C&P the lyrics from the internet, so good chance they are wrong 😉 I didn’t double-check as I was only looking for the “shades” part. I listened to the rest of it more closely as well. Seems like she might have lost a child. Maybe the kid died and she turned to heroin? She wears a cross because she wants to meet her child in heaven again? Or maybe she started using and her husband divorced her and she lost custody over her addiction. Anyway, its a much better song (lyrically) than I’ve always assumed it was. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=261) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=263)