# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 272
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5427 "2023-07-04T00:25:28Z")
My husband after I did something playfully risky: You went right up to the edge of the deep, didn’t you? Who are you, Nemo?" Me: What does Nemo have to do with…? Oh, you mean the fish? At first, I thought you meant the…underwater adventurer… Ohhhh. The fish. Named Nemo. After Nemo. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5428 "2023-07-04T16:13:56Z")
That’s Nemo-ist. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5429 "2023-07-07T13:57:51Z")
The Beatles’ _Revolver_ - I have literally just realised it is not named after a gun. A record **revolves**. I am very dense sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5430 "2023-07-07T14:36:52Z")
Don’t feel bad. I didn’t get the BEATles referred to a drum beat until I read it here. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5431 "2023-07-07T14:43:24Z")
or both (from wiki) > The album’s title, like that of _Rubber Soul_, is a pun,[[75]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolver_(Beatles_album)?useskin=vector#cite_note-FOOTNOTELewisohn200584-81) referring to both [a kind of handgun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolver) and the “revolving” motion of a record as it plays on a [turntable](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph).[[304]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolver_(Beatles_album)?useskin=vector#cite_note-FOOTNOTETurner2016239-327) Gould views the title as a “[McLuhanesque](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_McLuhan) pun”, since, more so than on their previous albums, the focus of _Revolver_ appears to rotate from one Beatle to another with each song.[[282]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolver_(Beatles_album)?useskin=vector#cite_note-FOOTNOTEGould2007348-304)[[nb 24]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolver_(Beatles_album)?useskin=vector#cite_note-329) ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5432 "2023-07-07T14:50:56Z")
The name of the Beatles are claimed to come from several sources, like the group The Crickets, the word “beat”, the word “beatnik”, a motorcycle group named “the Beetles” in the 1953 movie _The Wild One_, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5433 "2023-07-07T14:52:31Z")
The story I know is Paul had a dream and woke up and said, “The name is Beatles, with an A” and everyone was like, “cool.” I didn’t know much more thought had gone into it. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5434 "2023-07-07T15:00:19Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > The story I know is Paul had a dream and woke up and said, “The name is Beatles, with an A” and everyone was like, “cool.” I didn’t know much more thought had gone into it. > [@John Lennon](#): > > It came in a vision - a man appeared on a flaming pie and said unto them, ‘From this day forward you are Beatles with an A.’ Thank you Mister Man, they said, thanking him. … ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5435 "2023-07-07T15:01:55Z")
That’s the one. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5436 "2023-07-07T15:08:53Z")
It’s possible for a name to be inspired from several sources. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5437 "2023-07-07T16:41:33Z")
Indeed. My son’s name was inspired from several sources. One of which I wouldn’t share with any but my closest friends. So who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5438 "2023-07-24T03:46:11Z")
One of my favorite videos is Cold-hearted Snake by Paula Abdul [Paula Abdul - Cold Hearted (Official Music Video) - YouTube](https://youtu.be/o7aShcmEksw) Tonight I was watching “All That Jazz”, and one of the numbers obviously inspired Abdul’s video Take Off With Us ['Take Off With Us' from 'All That Jazz' (Fosse, 1979) - YouTube](https://youtu.be/whuhoWZ5dVY) Videos blurred because they are somewhat NSFW ETA: this is kind of cheating because I only saw All That Jazz when it first came out ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5439 "2023-07-24T05:23:09Z")
> [@Zyada](#): > > [‘Take Off With Us’ from ‘All That Jazz’ (Fosse, 1979) - YouTube](https://youtu.be/whuhoWZ5dVY) > > Videos blurred because they are somewhat NSFW As an aside, the lead dancer in that sequence (the one in black, and then nothing) is Sandahl Bergman, who is most famous for playing Valeria in _Conan the Barbarian_. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5440 "2023-07-24T12:45:02Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Don’t feel bad. I didn’t get the BEATles referred to a drum beat until I read it here. I thought it was a reference to the beatnik movement (even though they weren’t really part of that movement). ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5441 "2023-07-24T12:50:52Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I thought it was a reference to the beatnik movement (even though they weren’t really part of that movement). As I wrote above, it’s probably inspired by several things, like the group The Crickets, the word “beat”, the word “beatnik”, a motorcycle group named “the Beetles” in the 1953 movie _The Wild One_ , etc. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5442 "2023-07-24T14:03:28Z")
> [@Zyada](#): > > One of my favorite videos is Cold-hearted Snake by Paula Abdul > > [Paula Abdul - Cold Hearted (Official Music Video) - YouTube](https://youtu.be/o7aShcmEksw) One of the executives looks a bit like Michelle Forbes, and the timing would be about right. I wonder if it’s her. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5443 "2023-07-24T14:12:44Z")
On **The Big Bang Theory** , when Howard and Bernadette are video chatting while he’s away at astronaut training camp, he tells her about a night of survival training where he had to dig a hole to sleep in with his bare hands and that some time in the night an armadillo climbed in and spooned him. I only just noticed that the scratch on his face looks like an armadillo print > **[The Big Bang Theory - Howard - NASA Flight School and Survival Training](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yIjdGSqeVg%2F)** > > Howard skypes with Bernadette after he gets to NASA's flight training program to go into space and again after a night of survival traning. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5444 "2023-07-24T14:59:30Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > As I wrote above, it’s probably inspired by several things, like the group The Crickets, the word “beat”, the word “beatnik”, a motorcycle group named “the Beetles” in the 1953 movie _The Wild One_ , etc. The rock music coming out of Liverpool in the early '60s was called [Mersey beat or just Beat music](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_music). Of course they were thinking of the Crickets and Beat poets and, who knows, maybe Lee Marvin’s gang as well. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5445 "2023-07-24T15:13:42Z")
Good spot. The voice fits too; it’s definitely her. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5446 "2023-07-24T16:18:31Z")
I’ve been watching _Jeopardy!_ for years. At the beginning of each episode, Johnny Gilbert announces the players with one of several different introductions: “Please welcome today’s contestants,” “Let’s meet today’s contestants,” and so forth. It took me until about a month ago to realize that it’s not random. There are five different introductions, each one corresponding to a day of the week. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=271) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=273)