# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 275
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5487 "2023-08-24T17:13:09Z")
There’s gotta be some examples of that kind of fancasting out there. Only example I can think of is Zooey Deschanellnellchanell being in a Katy Perry video. ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5488 "2023-08-24T17:15:49Z")
Those examples have nothing to do with what I mentioned: actors who look like family, not real-life relatives. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5489 "2023-08-24T17:20:47Z")
I’m re-watching a bunch of MASH reruns and season 9, episode 6 starts with the gang ringing in the new year, 1951. Now, the episode is sort of a year in the life thing, but the first scene features Potter, BJ, Winchester, Klinger in a baseball jersey not a dress and no Radar, which basically means the entire first eight seasons of MASH took place in a span of about 6 month, the war having started in June of 1950. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5490 "2023-08-24T17:36:18Z")
M_A_S\*H is hard to pen down. Henry Blake’s helicopter was shot down in 1952. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5491 "2023-08-24T17:38:18Z")
True. As I was composing that post it occurred to me that Frank, Radar, Trapper and Henry spent plenty of time freezing their asses off; that couldn’t have all happened in November and December of 1950. BTW … Blake was shot down in a plane. /pedantry ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5492 "2023-08-24T18:15:30Z")
Yeah, the _MASH_ timeline is muddy, to put it mildly. If I recall correctly, the producers basically said, “we don’t really care about that.” As for lookalike actors, David Hyde Pierce’s resemblance to Kelsey Grammer was apparently a large factor in his being cast in _Frasier_. ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5493 "2023-08-24T18:18:59Z")
Hey, that’s a good one. I’ve only seen bits of a few episodes and had to check online. They _do_ look alike. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5494 "2023-08-24T18:25:47Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > These days its ridiculous. Samara Weaving and Margot Robbie are nigh indistinguishable from each other In the movie “Babylon,” I was wondering why they had Margot in a second, uncredited, role. It turned out to be Samara Weaving. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5495 "2023-08-24T23:28:53Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Well, I’m the guy who keeps thinking **Scarlett** Johansson has red hair. (It’s actually Julianne Moore.) In the role I know her best in, she does. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5496 "2023-08-25T01:27:19Z")
In the 2014 movie _The Monuments Men_, which was directed by George Clooney, he is in the second-to-last scene of the movie playing the character he’s played all through the movie up to that point. The scene is supposed to take place in 1947. His character is asked if thirty years from then anyone will remember that men died for a piece of art. He thinks that they will. In the last scene, set in 1977, his character is played instead by his father Nick Clooney (who is a little more than 27 years older than George Clooney). ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5497 "2023-08-25T03:17:29Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > If I recall correctly, the producers basically said, “we don’t really care about that.” I fully support that attitude (particularly in the case of _MASH_ where I believe there were more episodes than days the US was actually fighting). Insert a new Darrin or Becky (and/or bring back the original Becky), ignore that Chuck went up the stairs 10 years ago and never came back down - the modern obsession with continuity drives me nuts. If it’s some major obvious thing, make an attempt at hand-waving an explanation (it was all a dream worked better with _Newhart_ then _Dallas_), but then just move on. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5498 "2023-08-25T12:40:21Z")
It just occurred to me that the made-up word “bodacious” which I think I first heard in AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN is the adjectival form of the word ‘body.’ ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5499 "2023-08-25T13:16:31Z")
> [@slicedalone](#): > > It just occurred to me that the made-up word “bodacious” which I think I first heard in AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN is the adjectival form of the word ‘body.’ > [@](#): > > Some of our readers may know _bodacious_ as a word that figured prominently in the lingo of the 1989 film _Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure_ . Others may recall the term’s frequent use in the long-running “Snuffy Smith” comic strip. Neither the creators of the comic strip nor the movie can claim to have coined _bodacious_ , which began appearing in print during the 1800s, but both likely contributed to its popularity. The exact origin of the word is uncertain, but it was most likely influenced by _[bold](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bold)_ and _[audacious](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/audacious)_ , and it may be linked to _[boldacious](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/boldacious)_ , a term from British dialect meaning “brazen” or “impudent.” > **[Definition of BODACIOUS](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bodacious)** > > outright, unmistakable; remarkable, noteworthy; sexy, voluptuous… See the full definition A quick look at the Googlke n-gram viewer corroborates that the term appeared in the 19th century, with b lips around 1840 and 1885. But it really started taking off circa 1920 and has grown, peaking around ten years ago or so > **[Google Books Ngram Viewer](https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=bodacious&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=true)** > > Google Books Ngram Viewer ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5500 "2023-08-25T13:40:21Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Some of our readers may know _bodacious_ as a word that figured prominently in the lingo of the 1989 film _Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure_ Strange. I never saw Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure. The phrase I’m familiar with is “bodacious tatas”–isn’t that from Officer and Gentleman? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5501 "2023-08-25T13:54:00Z")
> [@slicedalone](#): > > Strange. I never saw Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure. The phrase I’m familiar with is “bodacious tatas”–isn’t that from Officer and Gentleman? I never saw _that_ movie. But evidently “bodacious tatas” was used in that film, and some dictionary definitions (and Joe Bob Briggs) say that’s the first use of the phrase. I know it was used as a porno title about the same time, but that would be consistent. Nevertheless, “bodacious” clearly existed as a word long before anyone associated with An Officer and a Gentleman was even born. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5502 "2023-08-25T14:08:27Z")
> [@alovem](#): > > I’ve often wondered why some of those similar-looking actors haven’t been cast as siblings, parent-child, etc. Mine is Maria Bello, Julie Bowen, and Kristen Bell. > **[Maria Bello | Actress, Producer, Writer](https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0004742/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1_tt_2_nm_5_q_maria%2520bell)** > > Known for: A History of Violence, The Cooler, Coyote Ugly > **[Julie Bowen | Actress, Producer, Director](https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0100866/?ref_=tt_cl_i_3)** > > Known for: Happy Gilmore, Modern Family, Ed > **[Kristen Bell | Actress, Producer, Writer](https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0068338/?ref_=tt_cl_i_1)** > > Known for: Frozen, Veronica Mars, Veronica Mars ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5503 "2023-08-25T14:15:37Z")
They’d be convincing as two sisters and a daughter/niece, wouldn’t they? One of the matches I couldn’t remember upthread is Matt Damon and Hllary Swank, who look an awful lot like brother and sister. After having a quick look online for Damon/Swank, I’ve realized that the lookalike thing has been done to death on social media, so I guess my idea would be to apply just about any of them to familial movie roles. I’m still a little surprised it doesn’t seem to be done in the film industry. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5504 "2023-08-25T14:18:46Z")
How about Laurie Metcalf and Jeffrey Tambor? ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5505 "2023-08-25T14:20:42Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > Jeffrey Tambor Yeah, good one! 😆 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5506 "2023-08-25T14:22:54Z")
[Dane DeHaan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_DeHaan) and [Cara Delevingne](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cara_Delevingne) were cast as a couple in a movie, and it really disturbed me because they looked so much alike. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=274) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=276)