# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 286
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5707 "2023-11-22T01:08:19Z")
I was watching an old episode of _Friends_, from the 1st or 2nd season. There was a scene where Ross goes to see his ex-wife, Carol the lesbian, unannounced. She opens the door in her bathrobe and he says, “Oh, am I interrupting anything?” To which she replies, “yeah, sort of,” and she reaches up real quickly to pick a pube off her tongue. It’s an unmistakable move. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5708 "2023-11-22T05:32:02Z")
How appropriate to follow that post with this: The Beatles’ “From Me to You” includes the lines > I got lips that long to kiss you > And keep you satisfied. The song was released in 1963, so I was 7 or 8 when I first heard it, and naturally knew nothing about cunnilingus at the time. But you might think that some time in the intervening 60 years the implication of lips “keep[ing] you satisfied” might have dawned on me. 🤦 ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5709 "2023-11-22T05:32:58Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > I just realized today that “Amazing Race” sounds like “Amazing Grace” You’re not the only one! ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5710 "2023-11-22T06:46:31Z")
It’s at the very end of the episode “The One Without the Ski Trip”. Earlier in the episode, Ross shows up at Carol’s apartment to borrow her car, and she is preparing dinner for her and Susan’s anniversary. Later when he returns the car, he apparently interrupts their anniversary celebration. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5711 "2023-11-22T10:28:39Z")
On that note: it appears to be a revelation that All Saints’ song “Never Ever” is based on “Amazing Grace”. Once you listen for it, it becomes obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2023, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5712 "2023-11-25T05:30:52Z")
I’ve always told my students that history is the science of change. I don’t know where I got that from but I’ve been saying it for 20+ years. Today it hit me … when I was a child I watched James Burke’s _Connections_ series, ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5713 "2023-11-26T01:13:25Z")
I’m one episode away from finishing season 2 of _The Bear_, and it just hit me that the title of each episode is something that appears in that episode. At least I’m pretty sure that’s the naming convention; I don’t feel like rewatching the earlier episodes to verify it. Some of them are pretty obvious, like “Fishes”, “Forks”, and “Omelette”. Others are more subtle, like in “Bolognese”, Carmy cooks that dish for Claire. In “Sundae”, if I remember correctly, Sydney eats a sundae when she’s visiting a bunch of other restaurants looking for inspiration. In “Honeydew” did Marcus use honeydew in a dessert when he was training in Copenhagen? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5714 "2023-11-26T06:24:51Z")
I was watching _Chitty Chitty Bang Bang_ a couple days ago and noticed something. Near the end, Truly is singing for Baron Bomburst’s birthday. She’s pretending to be an automaton on a music box with very mechanical movements. The sound effects that are part of the music, and synchronized with her movements, are differnt depending on which part of her body is moving. There’s kind of a grinding sound when she moves her arms, a knocking woodblock sound when she moves her head, etc. It’s a pretty minor thing, but it was something I’d never consciously noticed before. Someone had a good eye for detail when they were putting that scene together. Oh, and the whole movie is basically _Goldfinger_ for kids. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5715 "2023-11-26T06:49:59Z")
Okay, just rewatched Coco. Pretty nice little Disney Film. Miguel discovers that Ernesto is kinda a fake and a real rotter, but that is in the land of the dead. However, at the end of the film, Ernesto’s centograph has “Remember me” covered up by “Forget You!” but why? No one alive but the kid knows that, and will the whole village believe his story- and would he even tell people?? Seems kinda odd. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5716 "2023-11-26T07:26:06Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Oh, and the whole movie is basically _Goldfinger_ for kids. Well, it is based on a book by Ian Fleming. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5717 "2023-11-26T07:54:45Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Well, it is based on a book by Ian Fleming. It’s much more than just that. An Englishman\* gets a gadget-filled car from Desmond Llewelyn, flies across the English Channel in pursuit of Gert Fröbe, and foils his evil scheme. Produced by Albert R. Broccoli, screenplay by Roald Dahl (_You Only Live Twice_), and the female lead is named Truly Scrumptious. Directed by Ken Hughes, who was one of the co-directors of the 1967 _Casino Royale_. \* Technically, Bond was a Scot. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5718 "2023-11-26T10:44:26Z")
I presume he came back and found some kind of proof. And yes, I assume he’d tell people. Why let the murderer’s image go unspoiled? ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5719 "2023-11-26T13:50:37Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Technically, Bond was a Scot. Was Book Bond a Scot? I thought that was only to compensate for Sean Connery’s accent. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5720 "2023-11-26T14:44:46Z")
Fleming wrote Bond some Scottish heritage after being impressed by Connery. Literary Bond had a Scottish father and Swiss mother. I don’t think he ever stated Bond was born there himself. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5721 "2023-11-26T17:21:33Z")
At the end Coco reveals she has all her father’s old letters, demonstrating who wrote the songs originally. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5722 "2023-11-26T20:15:06Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I presume he came back and found some kind of proof. And yes, I assume he’d tell people. Why let the murderer’s image go unspoiled? Pretty hard to do after so many decades, and remember, that was just one villages, whereas Ernesto was idolized all of Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5723 "2023-11-26T21:17:11Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Well, it is based on a book by Ian Fleming. > [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Was Book Bond a Scot? I thought that was only to compensate for Sean Connery’s accent. I notice you’re both skipping the main part of my posts, and just commenting on the throw-away bit at the end. I must be burying the lede in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5724 "2023-11-26T21:18:51Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I notice you’re both skipping the main part of my posts, and just commenting on the throw-away bit at the end. I didn’t have anything to add to your main part, but I read and appreciated it. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5725 "2023-11-27T00:15:43Z")
As did I, but now I need to watch Chitty-chitty Bang-bang again. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5726 "2023-12-13T02:32:45Z")
TIL [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/Dr.DreTheChronic.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/Dr.DreTheChronic.jpg) [![](https://www.mivapeco.com/cdn/shop/products/zigzag-originalwhiterollingpapers.jpg?v=1632761303) ](https://www.mivapeco.com/cdn/shop/products/zigzag-originalwhiterollingpapers.jpg?v=1632761303) The only reason I can think of for not ever noticing that is because I copied someone else’s tape, so I don’t think I ever saw the cover. By the time I was in college, everyone just had their CD’s in a book, so I wouldn’t have seen their covers either. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=285) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=287)