# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 292
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5827 "2024-04-15T00:41:39Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > I mean, c’mon. If you’re gonna have a horse in a song, it’s gotta have a name. > **The Culpepper Cattle Company (1972)** > > "_Sure is a nice horse. What’s his name?"_ > _“You don’t have to put a name on something you might have to eat.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5828 "2024-04-15T00:59:16Z")
I’m ashamed of this one after all of the times I’ve seen it and heard the song. Doubly so since I saw _Jungle Book_ again a couple nights ago but only thought of it today. Baloo sings about being lazy but still getting on in life with “The Bare Necessities”. But Baloo is a bear so he is also singing about bear necessities. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5829 "2024-04-15T01:12:49Z")
> [@digs](#): > > none of which is true Oh @digs! It’s true in my heart. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5830 "2024-04-15T01:14:29Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Telly Savalas was the evil stepdad Unrelated but his daughter, Ariana, is an amazing singer with Postmodern Jukebox. She’s on the left in this video. I’m using this one because I adore [Haley](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3lF2qEA2cw) and [Morgan](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ReSV3CCRzg) as well. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/aLnZ1NQm2uk/maxresdefault.jpg "All About That Bass - Postmodern Jukebox European Tour Version") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLnZ1NQm2uk) ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5831 "2024-04-15T01:24:06Z")
Unless of course you’re riding thru the desert… ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5832 "2024-04-15T01:25:22Z")
Also, you realize I’m going to hear Wildfire on the radio in the next day or two, and will have no choice but to sing, _Toooooooe-ohhhhh-whoa-beeeeee-yee_ ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5833 "2024-04-15T01:30:33Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Baloo sings about being lazy but still getting on in life with “The Bare Necessities”. But Baloo is a bear so he is also singing about bear necessities. And it’s no surprise that he’s lazy, seeing as he’s a **sloth** bear. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5834 "2024-04-15T01:48:09Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > Oh @digs! It’s true in my heart. 😄 SO glad to be able to encourage your delusions (the doctor said that was the safest thing to do…). You just sing “Toby” forever (sorry!) Oh, and if you’re evacuating California families, yell at them that they have to leave their homes NOW, because “a Toby is on its way!” ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5835 "2024-04-15T03:41:59Z")
I just reread Terry Pratchett’s first Discworld book, _The Colour of Magic_, for the fourth or fifth (not millionth) time. I don’t recall in previous readings thinking much about **why** the scientists of Krull were so determined to discover the sex of the Great A’Tuin, the enormous space turtle on which the disc, supported by four great elephants, rests as it travels through the universe. This time the image of what might happen to the Disc if a female A’Tuin met a male counterpart popped into my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5836 "2024-04-15T05:44:23Z")
I was absolutely certain that the actual title of the song was “The Bear Necessities.” Just looked it up and, nope. ---
**Author:** ![AshleyWilliams78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@AshleyWilliams78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshleyWilliams78)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5837 "2024-04-15T14:26:57Z")
I’ve seen the movie _Airplane!_ many, many times. And I only recently noticed this: At the beginning Captain Over gets a phone call from the doctor at the “Mayo Clinic.” When we see the doctor, he is standing in a room full of jars of mayonnaise. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5838 "2024-04-15T14:47:52Z")
That’s one of my favorite sight gags in that movie. The one I missed for years was the _Modern Sperm_ title in the “Whacking Material” section of the magazine rack. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5839 "2024-04-15T22:11:22Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > This time the image of what might happen to the Disc if a female A’Tuin met a male counterpart popped into my mind. The turtles I’ve seen going at it, the male didn’t mount the female’s back. Rather, they were sort of end to end, with one of them (I’m not certain which) upside-down. On the other hand, A’Tuin eggs are relevant in at least one of the books. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5840 "2024-04-16T12:22:54Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > The turtles I’ve seen going at it, the male didn’t mount the female’s back. Rather, they were sort of end to end, with one of them (I’m not certain which) upside-down. This may sound weird to ask but – What Turtles Have You Seen Having Sex? Every picture I’ve seen of mating turtles shows them is “turtle-doggy style”: > **[Mating Box Turtles](https://stevecreek.com/mating-box-turtles/)** > > I was minding my own business, driving my pickup truck, when I spotted a pair of Box Turtles getting busy right in the middle of the road. Talk about some… > **[Turtles mating hi-res stock photography and images - Alamy](https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/turtles-mating.html?sortBy=relevant)** > > Find the perfect turtles mating stock photo, image, vector, illustration or 360 image. Available for both RF and RM licensing. In some cases the turtle’s shells are even shaped to favor this position. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5841 "2024-04-16T14:06:17Z")
Thanks, @CalMeacham. I can’t claim to be an expert on turtle sex (and wouldn’t, even if I could!) but those photos confirm what I thought I had seen/read about the subject. Now imagine what would happen to four elephants and a disc that had been resting on top of the female before the male showed up. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5842 "2024-04-16T21:46:18Z")
I think it was snapping turtles I saw. Maybe they use a different position than most other species. Or maybe those two were just kinky (after all, why shouldn’t other species have just as many positions as humans do?). Or maybe my memory was faulty, or maybe they were doing something else entirely. Like @commasense , I have no intention of claiming any expertise on turtle mating. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5843 "2024-04-17T05:29:59Z")
The kama shelltra. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5844 "2024-04-17T11:18:56Z")
Did you watch it from start, or arrive afterwards? Because maybe they started as per most turtles and then the male fell backwards? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5845 "2024-04-17T11:46:38Z")
Turtle #1: That’s weird position. Are you kinky? Turtle #2: No, just clumsy. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5846 "2024-04-21T23:03:22Z")
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