# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 297
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5927 "2024-07-06T22:18:42Z")
Not to love me, anyway… ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5928 "2024-07-07T01:04:11Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > And why would anybody ship bananas _into_ Jamaica? They seemed to have plenty of bananas already. Yeah, I get that now, but Belafonte was singing in NY to NY audiences, and I always assumed that a migrant workforce was unloading at night because the ship had just come in. (I was probably wrong about the workforce too – was the Port of New Orleans heavily unionized?) ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5929 "2024-07-07T16:15:53Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > Not to love me, anyway… You fool, you fool ---
**Author:** ![Cmyers1980](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyers1980/32/11814_2.png) [@Cmyers1980](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cmyers1980)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5930 "2024-07-09T13:08:51Z")
Freddy says “Penny for your thoughts” to Jason when they fight in the dream world because he was silent the entire time even when others would be screaming in pain. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5931 "2024-07-23T03:20:44Z")
Not a creative work but adjacent to a creative work. I thought TMZ meant… I don’t know what I thought. Maybe it never occurred to me to think about it. I just recently found out it stands for Thirty Mile Zone. That’s the area that was established around Hollywood by the studios and unions. It’s used to determine per diem rates. It’s one of the reasons why Vasquez Rocks are in so many productions, it’s within the TMZ. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5932 "2024-07-23T17:33:50Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Last week while watching Poker After Dark it occurred to me that the sit-com Full House was named after a poker hand :smack::smack:. And the theme song has a bunch of easy-to-miss poker references: > Everywhere you look, everywhere you go > There’s a **heart** , a **hand** to hold onto > Everywhere you look, everywhere you go > There’s a **face** of somebody who needs you ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5933 "2024-07-24T00:30:01Z")
I don’t know if it’s “obvious,” but I was just watching **Planes, Trains, and Automobiles** and I just realized that in the motel room they paid for with Neal’s watch, they are drinking mini liquor bottles and small bags of snacks because they raided the minibar, because there’s no credit card on file and they can’t be charged for any of it. I suppose if Neal’s watch was very valuable, they figured it was covered. Unlikely the watch was valuable enough to cover the smashed room, on the other hand. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5934 "2024-07-30T17:41:41Z")
> [@Briny\_Deep](#): > > Harrison Ford meets Melanie Griffith for the first time, then later finds her completely unconscious due to one drink and a higher-than-expected dose of Valium she took from a well-meaning friend. He takes her back to his apartment, takes her dress off her unconscious body, puts her in his bed, and climbs in next to her for the night. They didn’t have sex, true, but was this not still _incredibly_ rapey even by the standards of the day? Ewwww. I haven’t seen the movie… but duh. At a MINIMUM, put her to bed still fully dressed. If I woke up under those circumstances, I’d have a really hard time believing that nothing had happened. Sounds like one of those movies / scenes that really, really does not age well. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5935 "2024-07-30T17:51:24Z")
> [@Mama\_Zappa](#): > > At a MINIMUM, put her to bed still fully dressed. Was there more of a taboo against sleeping in one’s clothes in the Olden Days, perhaps because it was harder to launder them or keep them from wrinkling? Is that why ~~Calvin Klein~~ Marty McFly wakes up pantsless in 1955? ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5936 "2024-07-30T18:04:40Z")
I’d imagine the more fragile and less flexible clothing of yesteryear would also be vulnerable to ripped seams caused by tossing and turning in one’s sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5937 "2024-07-30T18:08:48Z")
_Working Girl_ came out in 1988. A year after I got out of college. Can we cheese it with yesteryears and olden days, please. I don’t even have to tell you about my lawn. ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5938 "2024-07-30T18:30:15Z")
Most of the records are lost to the mists of time, of course, but some of the surviving tablets indicate that the dress was of the very frilly party variety, one very certain to be damaged during sleep. ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5939 "2024-07-30T18:38:17Z")
> [@Briny\_Deep](#): > > They didn’t have sex, true, but was this not still _incredibly_ rapey even by the standards of the day? It wasn’t incredibly so - maybe a little but there was a very strange period from the 70s into the 80s where movies, TV and ads that weren’t acceptable before and after were somehow OK during just that time period. Off the top of my head, _Pretty Baby_ and _Little Darlings_ could only have been made during that time period. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5940 "2024-07-30T18:40:29Z")
It was an age of cocaine and atmospheric lead poisoning. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5941 "2024-07-30T18:54:11Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Is that why ~~Calvin Klein~~ Marty McFly wakes up pantsless in 1955? I’ve thought about the part where Lorraine’s dad hits a teenager with his car, knocking him out, and instead of calling an ambulance or taking him to a doctor, he brings the unconscious kid into the house and puts him to bed. I never until just now realized that at some point while doing so, he _took his pants off_. What the hell? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5942 "2024-07-30T18:56:39Z")
I sort of assumed that it was Lorraine who took his pants off, because she was a horny teenager. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5943 "2024-07-30T20:03:14Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > It was an age of cocaine and atmospheric lead poisoning. No need to jazz it up. Just say the good ol’ days. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5944 "2024-07-30T20:24:59Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > It was an age of cocaine and atmospheric lead poisoning. Not quite; no new cars designed to require leaded gas could be built after 1975. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5945 "2024-07-30T20:31:52Z")
But those cars stayed on the road for years, and even if the newer cars didn’t require leaded gas, they often still used it anyway. The age of atmospheric lead poisoning didn’t end until some time after they stopped selling leaded gas. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/5946 "2024-07-30T20:34:55Z")
Leaded gas was still sold up until 1996. Of course by then, I would think most cars on the road had catalytic converters, so they couldn’t take leaded gas. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=296) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=298)