# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 331
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6607 "2025-09-09T15:15:30Z")
I’d always assumed the title of the album (and its fourth track) was a play on the Reagan-era political slogan “Morning in America” (because you eat breakfast in the morning, get it?). Turns out it was released in 1979, before Reagan was even elected…. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6608 "2025-09-09T15:58:45Z")
Another one for Supertramp… in “Fool’s Overture” there’s a section near the end where the sax is playing over the sound of blowing winds, and there’s a barely audible vocal chorus in the background. I just noticed yesterday that what they are singing is “Jerusalem”. (There is also a faint “Dreamer” in there, but I have always heard that…) ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6609 "2025-09-09T16:03:02Z")
You’re Bloody Well Right! Although, having thought about it, with Supertramp being British, 09/11 would be 9th November, so that blows this theory out of the water… 😏 ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6610 "2025-09-09T16:14:00Z")
Dude, was the album called _Breakfast in England_? It is kinda funny/weird. [![](https://i.imgur.com/Xj8QkHJ.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/Xj8QkHJ.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6611 "2025-09-09T16:20:42Z")
well crap. I’m the biggest idiot here. I just went back to look over the album cover and realized the waitress is a stylized Statue of Liberty. Just realized this 2 min ago. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6612 "2025-09-09T16:50:22Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > …and there’s a barely audible vocal chorus in the background. I just noticed yesterday that what they are singing is “Jerusalem”. (There is also a faint “Dreamer” in there, but I have always heard that…) This has probably been mentioned before in this thread, but during the final fight in _Deadpool 2_, there’s very dramatic choral music to punctuate the action. Listen closely and they’re singing “holy shitballs”. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6613 "2025-09-09T17:59:43Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > They knew, man. Way back then, they knew. They did. But they realized there’s not a lot they could do. ---
**Author:** ![Eclipse\_Chaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@Eclipse\_Chaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eclipse_Chaser)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6614 "2025-09-09T18:01:22Z")
A fairly trivial one … but the Kindle logo, of the person sitting under the tree, the figure of the person looks like a letter “K”. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6615 "2025-09-09T20:12:51Z")
Huh. I had never noticed. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6616 "2025-09-09T20:15:16Z")
Ha, ok, you got me. There can be no doubt then! ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6617 "2025-09-09T20:45:48Z")
That the beat in a lot of Tejano music is the Texas two step. I don’t listen to country music, which is what I associate with the Texas two step. For whatever reason I’ve never associated the term with my favorite Tejano songs. I recently re-listened to an older Dave Matthew’s Band song called _Two Step_, and I realized that the beat is the same as the beat in a lot of Tejano music. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6618 "2025-09-09T21:27:42Z")
> [@Sigene](#): > > well crap. I’m the biggest idiot here. I just went back to look over the album cover and realized the waitress is a stylized Statue of Liberty. Just realized this 2 min ago. I recognized the NYC skyline/Statue of Liberty thing long ago, but looking at that reversed album cover image I just noticed for the first time that the view is out an airplane window! ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6619 "2025-09-09T21:37:55Z")
The model for the album cover was Kate Murtagh, which I knew because she and my grandmother were both in Hellzapoppin. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6620 "2025-09-10T22:14:12Z")
Something I thought I knew; turned out I was wrong: The origin of the name “River Song”. I know the in-universe explanation, but as for where the writers/showrunners got it to begin with, I thought it was from “Crazy Love” by Van Morrison. _And when I’m with her, that’s where I belong/And I’m running to her, like a river’s song._ Actually, Russell T. Davies and Stephen Moffat had a game going, where they’d try to set up naughty acronyms in episode titles. “A, R, S, E: what can I do with that? A River Song Ending. Okay, now we’ve got a name for that character!” I was thinking romantic; they were being bawdy. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6621 "2025-09-10T23:36:17Z")
What show is that? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6622 "2025-09-10T23:49:19Z")
Dr Who ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6623 "2025-09-12T13:23:24Z")
In the movie _This Is Spinal Tap_, there’s a character named Sir Dennis Eton-Hogg (the head of Polymer Records, we meet him during the party that Fran Drescher throws). I didn’t recognize until the other day that his name is a joke about blow jobs. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6624 "2025-09-12T14:36:08Z")
Also a play on Sir Michael Lindsay-Hogg, who filmed/directed all those 1960s rock artists for film and TV. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6625 "2025-09-12T16:37:13Z")
I used to think “Surrender Dorothy” by the witch was a directive to Dorothy. She’s actually telling the city to give her up. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6626 "2025-09-12T21:13:40Z")
Not exactly a creative work and not exactly the millionth time but a year ago I bought an auto new enough to include SiriusXM. One of my saved channels is, of course, 18, The Beatles _24/8_ I’d puzzled about the sub-head a few times in the past year then yesterday, “Eight Days a Week” came up in rotation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=330) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=332)