# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/781 "2010-10-15T18:49:32Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Going to disagree on this one. Rugen has some great lines; not just “that’s the worst thing I’ve ever heard. How marvelous.” but also “Tell me, how did that make you feel. Remember, this is for posterity.” If “how did that make you feel” is a great line, you must be spellbound by your local newscast. It’s a good joke, that someone commiting such tortures would ask such a mundane question. But it is mundane. The bad guys in that movie are businesslike. ---
**Author:** ![Carptracker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ac91a4/32.png) [@Carptracker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carptracker)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/782 "2010-10-16T04:56:37Z")
In Vonnegut’s “Cat’s Cradle”, the illegal religion to which everyone belongs has a tradition on which two people touch the bottoms of their feet together so that their souls can mingle. Years after reading that the first time and probably having read it a couple of times in between, I was telling a friend about the plot of the book and saying it out loud caused the peseta to fall. Souls=soles. D’uh. Also, took me a couple of times through the Magic Christian (possibly my favorite movie, though it is not for everyone) to realize that Peter Sellers’ character was gay. Makes the opening scene a bit funnier, once you know that. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/783 "2010-10-17T20:07:32Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > In Trevanian’s novel The Eiger Sanction, I got that some of the names were jokes. But it wasn’t until the third or fourth read that I caught the fact that Mr. Dragon’s first name is Yurasis. I have a smirking dragon shaped bong my mother gave me many years ago whose name is Yurasis. Few people figure that one out too! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MostlyClueless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@MostlyClueless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyClueless)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/784 "2010-10-17T20:42:23Z")
“Your ass is dragon”? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/785 "2010-10-17T21:24:35Z")
“Your ass is draggin’.” As in, “You’re not working fast enough/hard enough.” ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/786 "2010-10-17T23:04:14Z")
Dragonass by Anne McCaffeine. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/787 "2010-10-17T23:28:05Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#): > > I have a smirking dragon shaped bong my mother gave me many years ago whose name is Yurasis. For a bong it could also be “your ass is grass”. Your mother gave you a bong? ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/788 "2010-10-18T01:38:03Z")
Maybe SmartAleq’s real name is Rae Dawn? ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/789 "2010-10-18T05:59:18Z")
Yes she did, and no unfortunately it’s not. Just several generations of herbalists in my family… 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/790 "2010-10-18T13:02:51Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > It took me years to realize that “Brown Eyed Girl” was actually about anal sex. I’ve never heard that before. I just read the lyrics, and still think it’s a stretch. Did Van Morrison say that’s what it’s about? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/791 "2010-10-18T17:53:41Z")
I was in my 30s before I realized the the “F” in **F-Troop** might stand for a word they couldn’t say on TV. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/792 "2010-10-18T18:22:19Z")
> [@Reno\_Nevada](#): > > Well, I was going to disagree with you vociferously, but this re-statement makes a lot of sense, so I will just provide a few quotes from another movie where the good guys get all the good lines… > > …[Big Trouble in Little China]… > > And, really, pretty much the rest of the script. The bad guys don’t have a whole lot of screen time or dialog. “Indeed!” “You were not put on this earth to ‘get it’ Mr Burton” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/793 "2010-10-18T18:25:19Z")
> [@NetTrekker](#): > > It wasn’t until “much later” that I found out the words to the flying monkeys’ chant, and it still creeps me out a bit. > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Okay, I’ll bite. What ARE the words to the flying monkeys’ chant? > [@Telperion](#): > > According to IMDB, the chant in the script is “O-Ee-Yah! Eoh-Ah!”. I have no idea what that means in monkeyese. > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Doing a quick search, I found [this](http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060909024118AAPPiAN): > > **“There are many alleged lyrics to the ‘Winkie Chant’ performed by the Witch’s guards, including ‘All we own, we owe her’, ‘Oh we love the old one’, and ‘Oh we loathe the old one’. However, the correct version, seen in the film’s screenplay, is ‘O-Ee-Yah! Eoh-Ah!’ and any other interpretations are simply the result of the listener’s mind treating the chant as an audio ink blot.”** > [@Chronos](#): > > First of all, that’s a result of your listening very closely, not a result of them saying it. Second, even if they were saying that (which, I reiterate, they’re not), what makes you think that “the Old One” is Satan? The obvious candidate for “Old One”, in context, would be the Witch. > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Even if it were to say that, which evidence contradicts, that would seem too innocuous for **NetTrekker** to say it “creeps me out” above. I suspect he heard something else. Why is everyone discussing the Winkies’ chant when the subject was supposed to be the flying monkies’ chant? Or did **NetTrekker** write the latter and mean the former? ---
**Author:** ![AutumnLeaves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@AutumnLeaves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AutumnLeaves)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/794 "2010-10-18T18:45:54Z")
> [@Enright3](#): > > I’ve never heard that before. I just read the lyrics, and still think it’s a stretch. Did Van Morrison say that’s what it’s about? I think nearly every 18 year old boy I’ve ever been around has made this tired joke. Usually while giggling girlishly. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/795 "2010-10-18T20:20:02Z")
> [@AutumnLeaves](#): > > I think nearly every 18 year old boy I’ve ever been around has made this tired joke. Usually while giggling girlishly. And while \*also \*missing the line that was the \*actually controversial \*one when the song was released: “My, how you have grown.” Which could be a reference to pregnancy–a little bit hard to achieve through anal. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/796 "2010-10-18T21:21:47Z")
> [@Dr.Rieux](#): > > I was in my 30s before I realized the the “F” in **F-Troop** might stand for a word they couldn’t say on TV. That’s okay. It was a couple of decades before it occurred to me that the “KRP” in “WKRP” might somehow _not_ be meant to suggest “carp,” as Les said it did in one epsiode. This despite having seen the episode in question when it first aired, and completely missing the import of the line “what else would it be?” ---
**Author:** ![AutumnLeaves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@AutumnLeaves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AutumnLeaves)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/797 "2010-10-18T21:54:05Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > And while \*also \*missing the line that was the \*actually controversial \*one when the song was released: “My, how you have grown.” Which could be a reference to pregnancy–a little bit hard to achieve through anal. I always figured it was controversial because of the implication that she was quite young when they started makin’ love in the green grass, never looked at it that way. Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/798 "2010-10-18T21:59:14Z")
IIRC, I got that particular bit of info from my mother, that being her recollection of the attitudes about the song when it was released. “My mom says so!” isn’t much of a cite, but our family is known for being a bunch of crapheads\* who tend to kill at games like Trivial Pursuit–especially Mom. \*A self-selected term meaning “people who remember a bunch of useless crap.” ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/799 "2010-10-19T03:28:19Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Why is everyone discussing the Winkies’ chant when the subject was supposed to be the flying monkies’ chant? Or did **NetTrekker** write the latter and mean the former? It’s been awhile since I last saw the film, and I was thinking they were one and the same. If not, what _does_ **NetTrekker** think the chant is, as I can find nothing about a “flying-monkey chant.” ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/800 "2010-11-10T14:31:25Z")
I don’t know what the hell I was dreaming this morning, but I woke up thinking about the title of Dylan’s song [Love Minus Zero/No Limit](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Minus_Zero/No_Limit). I never noticed in all the decades this song has been around, and wiki doesn’t mention it either, that in tennis LOVE=ZERO. Good one, Bobby. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=41)