# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/941 "2011-02-28T21:16:47Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Limited to the \*Star Wars \*universe, IIRC, by a fiercely protected Lucasfilm trademark.

That is interesting…it seems that Verizon is paying LucasArts to use “Droid” as the brand name for their Android line. Good move on that long-ago copyright, George!

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/942 "2011-02-28T21:41:50Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> it seems that Verizon is paying LucasArts to use “Droid” as the brand name for their Android line.

Correctamundo. If you pay attention, you can see the fine print on the ads.

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> Good move on that long-ago copyright, George!

If there’s one thing George Lucas excels at, it’s turning his intellectual property into cashy monies.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/943 "2011-02-28T21:48:11Z")

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I first learned about androids by watching [The Lost Saucer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHtWHRBtjUU).

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/944 "2011-02-28T23:59:50Z")

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Until they explicitly brought it up on the show, I didn’t realize that the Supernatural character Bobby Singer was named after Supernatural producer/director Robert Singer.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/945 "2011-03-03T19:16:06Z")

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I didn’t realize until this morning that half spring training baseball is called the “cactus league” because it is played in Arizona…and the other half is the “grapefruit league” because it is played in Florida. I have known the names for years but never got the connection until now.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/946 "2011-03-03T19:24:05Z")

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> [@Nobody](#):
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> OK, I feel like a total moron now. Earlier I was thinking of another show that had a Cyborg, and then it dawned on me that the Borg from Star Trek TNG was just a shortening of the word Cyborg, which is what they are. :smack::smack::smack:

I never realized that! And I guess 7 was a Borg-nine.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/947 "2011-03-03T19:43:52Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> I never realized that! And I guess 7 was a Borg-nine.

Wow…[Jeri Ryan](http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=egsisas&xhr=t&q=ernest+borgnine&cp=6&qe=ZXJuZXN0IGJvcmduaW5l&qesig=8efF4qXPQk0tZHJphzW3PQ&pkc=AFgZ2tlj5RZi8-LCA92nrmi7rr4cl5vLw83XMWl-k6jXDc0NA2lVTkwAzcK20x61BRvTmwdo6b4Gt_cnhtecjV3yNHZ3RIoC3A&pq=ernest+borgnine&safe=off&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1600&bih=799) has really let herself go!

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/948 "2011-03-03T20:19:37Z")

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I just started the latest novel by Terry Pratchett featuring Tiffany Aching and the Nac Mac Feegle, and I’m chagrined to say that I only now realized that Rob Anybody means he’ll rob anybody. I’d thought his name was Rob and his last name was just an an anonymous alias, like someone calling themselves Mr. Nonesuch.

ETA: and that “face the music” wasn’t just an idiom!

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/949 "2011-03-03T22:07:55Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> ETA: and that “face the music” wasn’t just an idiom!

explain, please.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/950 "2011-03-03T22:58:58Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> I never realized that! And I guess 7 was a Borg-nine.

What did I do to deserve this **Pun** _ishment_? 😃

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/951 "2011-03-03T23:45:35Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> I just started the latest novel by Terry Pratchett featuring Tiffany Aching and the Nac Mac Feegle, and I’m chagrined to say that I only now realized that Rob Anybody means he’ll rob anybody. I’d thought his name was Rob and his last name was just an an anonymous alias, like someone calling themselves Mr. Nonesuch.
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> ETA: and that “face the music” wasn’t just an idiom!

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> explain, please.

The “music” in question is what’s called [Rough Music](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rough_music). Only in the novel\*\*\* I Shall Wear Midnight\*\*\*, It’s the sound of a mob working itself up to a lynching

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/952 "2011-03-20T04:39:06Z")

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The _Return of the Jedi_ threads had me reflecting on Lucas and his penchant for names. Thought of Admiral Ackbar, how it is almost “Allah Ackbar”.

Then thought of Greedo from Star Wars. The bounty hunter that corners Solo in the bar, tries to get Solo to pay him so he won’t kill him to return the body to Jabba for the bounty. The _greedy_ bounty hunter, _Greed_o.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/953 "2011-03-21T01:43:53Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> I never realized that! And I guess 7 was a Borg-nine.

One of my sigs from many years past was:

**After they returned , Seven of Nine and the rest of her Borg pod were arrested for Treason against the Federation. We believe they acted in Good Faith. Free the Earnest Borg Nine!**

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/954 "2011-03-21T13:58:32Z")

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I’m not going to go through the umpty-million pages of this thread to see if it has been posted before, but here’s a link to one of the funniest Pittings ever (over 10 years old! :eek: ), [My rage burns with the fire of a million suns](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=62082), where the OP explains his embarrassment at finding out that Jerry Lewis and Jerry Lee Lewis are two separate people.

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**Author:** ![RomeoAndRosaline](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e36b37/32.png) [@RomeoAndRosaline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RomeoAndRosaline)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/955 "2011-03-29T19:19:26Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> Scarecrow wants a brain…yet he’s the smartest guy in the group who comes up with all the ideas.  
> Tinman wants a heart, but he’s a sentimental lug.  
> Cowardly lion wants courage, and he’s the toughest SOB there.
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> Duh.

Seriously? The last time I watched this movie with the sound on was probably 15 years ago which might be why I never noticed this. Probably seen it ten times with Dark Side on since then though.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/956 "2011-03-30T16:17:25Z")

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I just realized that the meme “sex, drugs, and rock” is merely an update of the old “wine, women and song.”

I mean, REALLY! Why did I never thunk it?

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**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/957 "2011-03-30T16:20:48Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> I just realized that the meme “sex, drugs, and rock” is merely an update of the old “wine, women and song.”
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> I mean, REALLY! Why did I never thunk it?

**I** didn’t, until you posted. :smack:

Old age; it’s a bitch.

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**Author:** ![RomeoAndRosaline](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e36b37/32.png) [@RomeoAndRosaline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RomeoAndRosaline)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/958 "2011-04-01T01:23:45Z")

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I’m not sure if this one was supposed to be obvious or not but someone pointed it out to me and I thought it was nifty (spoilers for the Firefly movie, Serenity):

What does a leaf have to be to be in the wind?

Dead.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/959 "2011-04-01T07:35:23Z")

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I doubt it’s intentional. I know Grey’s Anatomy is already a play on words for the famous anatomical book combined with the protagonist’s last name. But I just realized another related pun - the protagonist is also a _neurosurgeon_ who works with the brain’s so called “grey matter”…

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/960 "2011-04-01T15:44:57Z")

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> [@RomeoAndRosaline](#):
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> I’m not sure if this one was supposed to be obvious or not but someone pointed it out to me and I thought it was nifty (spoilers for the Firefly movie, Serenity):
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> What does a leaf have to be to be in the wind?
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> Dead.

That’s interesting, but I doubt it was intentional on Joss’s part.

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