# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1261 "2012-08-14T20:47:32Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> So the radio at work is playing “Only the Good Die Young” today. A younger co-worker asks me “Who sings that song. He sounds familiar.” I tell her “Billy Joel.”
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> When he sings “Come out, Virginia” the second time, she says “Cute.”
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> Me: What’s cute?  
> Her: The name. Virginia  
> Me: 😕  
> Her: Virginia  
> Me: I still don’t get it.  
> Her, exasperated: Virginia. You know? Like in VIRGIN.  
> Me: :eek: Mental note to self: Add to this thread.

Amusingly, I just made that connection myself a few days ago when that song came on the radio at work (to be fair, I’d never really listened closely to the lyrics before).

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1262 "2012-08-14T21:18:39Z")

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Lyrics to \*\*Jellicle Songs for Jellicle Cats:

\*Can you sing at the same time in more than one key?  
Duets by Rossini and waltzes by Strauss?  
And can you (as cats do) begin with a ‘C’?  
That always triumphantly brings down the house?  
\*  
Yes, CATS do begin with a ‘C.’ C-A-T-S

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1263 "2012-08-15T01:26:43Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> In _The Princess Bride_, Inigo talking to Vizzini:
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> “I’m going to fight him left-handed. Is only way I can be satisfied. Otherwise, is over too quickly.”
> 
> I only just now realized that those lines could apply equally well in a different context.

For bonus points, note that Inigo doesn’t actually say “fight”.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1264 "2012-08-15T04:39:49Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> For bonus points, note that Inigo doesn’t actually say “fight”.

…

then, what did he say? Don’t leave us hanging. Come on!

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1265 "2012-08-15T14:54:10Z")

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I only just noticed that in the Billy Strayhorn standard “Lush Life,” the first syllable of “stifling” forms part of a double internal rhyme with the title phrase:

_Romance is **mush, stif** ling those who strive,  
I’ll live the **lush life** in some small dive_

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**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1266 "2012-08-15T19:21:33Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> …
> 
> then, what did he say? Don’t leave us hanging. Come on!

Inigo: I’m going to do him left-handed.

Vizzini: YOU KNOW WHAT A HURRY WE’RE IN!

Inigo: Is the only way I can be satisfied. If I use my  
right, over too quickly.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1267 "2012-08-15T19:51:54Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> I only just noticed that in the Billy Strayhorn standard “Lush Life,” the first syllable of “stifling” forms part of a double internal rhyme with the title phrase:
> 
> _Romance is **mush, stif** ling those who strive,  
> I’ll live the **lush life** in some small dive_

That song is the gift that keeps on giving. My favorite version is done by the World Saxophone Quartet.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1268 "2012-08-17T00:56:30Z")

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> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#):
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> Inigo: I’m going to do him left-handed.
> 
> Vizzini: YOU KNOW WHAT A HURRY WE’RE IN!
> 
> Inigo: Is the only way I can be satisfied. If I use my  
> right, over too quickly.

I always heard that as “I’m going to DUEL him left-handed.”

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**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1269 "2012-08-20T20:26:26Z")

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That could be the actual quote. I found both versions in scripts online.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1270 "2012-08-21T19:33:25Z")

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Speaking of virgin’s names, Grease’s Sandy Dumbrowski literally is [Sandra Dee](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5D-D7VYmY)

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1271 "2012-08-30T00:36:35Z")

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I’ve been a fan of Paul Di Filippo’s series of amusing shorts published in the Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction under the series title of “Plumage from Pegasus,” each one inspired by some real news article (all the stories are available here [Fantasy and Science Fiction Departments: Plumage from Pegasus (Humor)—Paul Di Filippo](http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/dpauldifilippo.htm), by the way). Just tonight, I realized that “Plumage from Pegasus”=“Horsefeathers” (or nonsense). D’oh.

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1272 "2012-12-29T19:40:22Z")

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Ok i’m bumping this thread because it was fun the first time around and I have something to add.

I’m watching Waynes World and I just noticed that near the beginning Wayne and the crew are driving around and they stop at a donut shop and get coffee and donuts. Well Garth orders a jelly donut and then a bit later in the scene Stacey comes over and is talking to Wayne and a couple of times the camera cuts back to Garth who has stuck a straw into his donut and he is drinking from his donut and it is making the slurpy sound like if you were drinking from a kids juice box.

I never noticed it before and I thought it was a clever little touch.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1273 "2012-12-30T14:50:02Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Speaking of virgin’s names, Grease’s Sandy Dumbrowski literally is [Sandra Dee](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5D-D7VYmY)

Had a friend in college who thought that Sandy’s name was “Sandra Dee” - he’d never heard of the actress.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1274 "2013-01-18T17:00:33Z")

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Sorry to resurrect, but it just came to me yesterday that “Disco Tex” (AKA Monte Rock III), from “Disco Tex and the Sex-O-Lettes,” is a play on “discothèques.” Disco Tex. Ha.

ETA: That record came out THIRTY-NINE YEARS AGO. It took me 39 years to realize that pun.

I don’t know when Monte Rock III came out.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1275 "2013-01-18T18:21:56Z")

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In an episode of Modern Family Phil mentioned the song “If you Leave” by Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark and I said to my wife, “he’s wrong, by the way, that song was by OMD oh my god that’s what that stands for!”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Bird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Little\_Bird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Bird)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1276 "2013-01-18T19:56:37Z")

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I felt dumb about realizing this one after listening to the song about a billion times, until I told my friends and BLEW THEIR MINDS.

Yanno Lonely Island’s “[The Ballad of Captain Jack Sparrow](http://www.hulu.com/watch/239640)”? Yanno the hook the Michael Bolton sings? It’s the same melody as [Captain Jack Sparrow’s theme](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV-nQ11vGJg) in Pirates of the Caribbean movies.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1277 "2013-01-18T20:32:17Z")

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The old dude with his trousers around his ankles in the Simpsons is singing “Old Gray Mare, she ain’t what she used to be.” Until a minute ago I thought he was saying “Old Grandma, she ain’t what she used to be.”

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1278 "2013-01-18T20:39:30Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> The old dude with his trousers around his ankles in the Simpsons is singing “Old Gray Mare, she ain’t what she used to be.” Until a minute ago I thought he was saying “Old Grandma, she ain’t what she used to be.”

Although that’s probably just as true…

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1279 "2013-01-19T01:11:00Z")

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> [@Little\_Bird](#):
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> I felt dumb about realizing this one after listening to the song about a billion times, until I told my friends and BLEW THEIR MINDS.
> 
> Yanno Lonely Island’s “[The Ballad of Captain Jack Sparrow](http://www.hulu.com/watch/239640)”? Yanno the hook the Michael Bolton sings? It’s the same melody as [Captain Jack Sparrow’s theme](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV-nQ11vGJg) in Pirates of the Caribbean movies.

It is? I thought it was similar, but different. Is it really?

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1280 "2013-01-23T02:58:42Z")

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Cool Hand Luck : “What we have here is a failure to communicate”

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