# Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 24, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117 "2009-07-24T13:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1281 "2013-01-23T03:01:35Z")
> [@Little\_Bird](#): > > Yanno Lonely Island’s “[The Ballad of Captain Jack Sparrow](http://www.hulu.com/watch/239640)”? I read this sentence three times, trying to figure out who the hell “Yanno Lonely Island” was. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1282 "2013-01-23T05:15:53Z")
So, you know how when you stick a program on a tablet or a phone, you call it an “app”? For whatever reason, it always bothered me that people were using a cutesy nickname to refer to programs or software. I would complain about it on occasion. What is “app” even supposed to mean, I would ask. We already have perfectly good names for computer applications. Only in the past month did it dawn on me that “app” was short for “application”. You may point and laugh now. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1283 "2013-01-23T05:21:44Z")
> [@19jlm42](#): > > Cool Hand Luck : “What we have here is a failure to communicate” The actual quote from Cool Hand Luke is: “What we have here is failure to communicate.” No “a”. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1284 "2013-01-23T13:45:13Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > The actual quote from Cool Hand Luke is: “What we have here is failure to communicate.” No “a”. The Online Encyclopedia with No Eyes says both with and without are correct, due to the line being spoken more than once in the film: > **[Cool Hand Luke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_Hand_Luke#Famous_line)** > > Cool Hand Luke is a 1967 American prison drama film directed by Stuart Rosenberg, starring Paul Newman and featuring George Kennedy in an Oscar-winning performance. Newman stars in the title role as Luke, a prisoner in a Florida prison camp who refuses to submit to the system. Set in the early 1950s, it is based on Donn Pearce's 1965 novel Cool Hand Luke. > Roger Ebert called Cool Hand Luke an anti-establishment film shot during emerging popular opposition to the Vietnam War. Filming took plac... ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1285 "2013-01-23T15:10:26Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > The Online Encyclopedia with No Eyes … 😕 I don’t get it. Explain the reference, please. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1286 "2013-01-23T15:19:28Z")
I don’t actually watch the show but I have certainly heard a lot about it. Until about a week ago I thought that the Abbey was downtown. ---
**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1287 "2013-01-23T15:21:43Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > It wasn’t until I started working with A to D converters that I realized that the name of the Librarian in the old Star Trek episode _All Our Yesterdays_, Mr. Atoz, was Mr. _A to Z_. > > Duh. Don’t feel bad. I just realized that last week, and I’m a Trekker. ---
**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1288 "2013-01-23T15:55:13Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Amusingly, I just made that connection myself a few days ago when that song came on the radio at work (to be fair, I’d never really listened closely to the lyrics before). I think you’re reading too much into that. Billy Joel is from Long Island, and in these parts, if a girl is named Virginia, you could bet the farm she’s Catholic. I think he just wanted a stereotypical Catholic girl name but didn’t want to use Mary. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1289 "2013-01-23T16:33:47Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Speaking of virgin’s names, Grease’s Sandy Dumbrowski literally is [Sandra Dee](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5D-D7VYmY) In the movie she’s Sandy Olsen - which semi-rhymes with ‘wholesome’. Also, while watching a show where they refinish houses, I learned that “Gingerbread” is actually an architectural style. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1290 "2013-01-23T17:28:38Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I read this sentence three times, trying to figure out who the hell “Yanno Lonely Island” was. I’ll admit to some confusion as well. Is “Yanno” supposed to be some “alternative” spelling of “You know…”? ---
**Author:** ![MacLir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@MacLir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacLir)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1291 "2013-01-24T23:37:20Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > I wonder how many concertgoers listening to a performance of Wagner’s _Die Walküre_ can’t help humming to themselves, ["Kill the Wabbit! Kill the Wabbit!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxiv3CBMS4M) Guilty as charged!! It’s amazing how much classical music has been sneaked into the general awareness that way. Here’s a subtle one: Who wrote “The Bear Went Over the Mountain”? Beethoven. It’s the main thematic line of “Wellington’s Victory” in the “Eroica” Symphony ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1292 "2013-01-24T23:39:44Z")
Does realizing why an NFL team was named what it was count here? I just realized this morning why the Baltimore NFL team was named the Ravens… ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1293 "2013-01-25T04:38:37Z")
> [@MacLir](#): > > Guilty as charged!! > > It’s amazing how much classical music has been sneaked into the general awareness that way. > > Here’s a subtle one: > Who wrote “The Bear Went Over the Mountain”? > > Beethoven. It’s the main thematic line of “Wellington’s Victory” in the “Eroica” Symphony Sorry, that’s wrong. [For He's a Jolly Good Fellow - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_He%27s_a_Jolly_Good_Fellow#History%5Bspoiler%5D) > [@](#): > > The tune was originally composed the night after the Battle of Malplaquet in 1709.[1] It became a French folk tune and was later popularized by Marie Antoinette after she heard one of her maids singing it.[2] The melody became so popular in France that it was used to represent the French defeat in Beethoven’s composition “Wellington’s Victory” Opus 91 written in 1813.[3] [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1294 "2013-01-25T05:23:12Z")
> [@BwanaBob](#): > > I think you’re reading too much into that. Oh I don’t. It’s in the first line verse: > [@](#): > > Come out Virginia, don’t make me wait, > You Catholic girls start much too late. > Ah, but sooner or later it comes down to fate, > I might as well be the one. and it’s all but repeated in the last verse: > [@](#): > > Come out, come out, come out! > Virginia don’t let me wait! > You Catholic girls start much too late! > Sooner or later it comes down to fate. > I might as well will be the one… > You know that only the good die young! The song’s ALL about trying to get into her pants. It’s too perfect. Still, if you don’t think that was his intent, well, that’s what makes art interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1295 "2013-01-25T14:37:48Z")
It wasn’t until a short while ago that I realized what **The Godfather’s** Vito Corleone’s surname (that wasn’t even his true surname, just the name of his village that the Ellis Island people slapped on him) meant in Italian. Corleone. _Cor leone._ Lionheart. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![FilthyPazuzu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ac91a4/32.png) [@FilthyPazuzu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilthyPazuzu)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1296 "2013-01-25T14:57:02Z")
I was 12 when _Disintegration_ by The Cure came out, so it’s understandable I didn’t immediately realize _Fascination Street_ was about oral sex. But it was only after 7 years of constant listening and singing along that it hit me. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1297 "2013-01-25T15:51:44Z")
You may be reading too much into the name “Corleone”: > **[Corleone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corleone)** > > Corleone (Italian: \[korleˈoːne\]; Sicilian: Cunigghiuni \[kʊnɪɟˈɟuːnɪ\] or Curliuni \[kʊɾlɪˈuːnɪ\]) is an Italian town and comune of roughly 11,158 inhabitants in the Metropolitan City of Palermo, in Sicily. > Several Mafia bosses have come from Corleone, including Tommy Gagliano, Gaetano Reina, Jack Dragna, Giuseppe Morello, Michele Navarra, Luciano Leggio, Leoluca Bagarella, Salvatore Riina and Bernardo Provenzano. It is also the birthplace of several fictional characters in Mario Puzo's 1969 novel T... Corleone is a real town in Italy where many Mafioso come from. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1298 "2013-01-25T15:57:56Z")
I just heard Kenny Roger’s song “The Gambler” this morning (hadn’t heard it in decades) and…holy shit…the Gambler dies on the train right there! I never caught that bit before. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1299 "2013-01-25T16:03:28Z")
> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > You may be reading too much into the name “Corleone”: It’s fiction, not history. It’s Puzo’s choice to use that town and have the Ellis Island official change Vito’s name to it that matters. ---
**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/1300 "2013-01-25T17:25:26Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > It’s fiction, not history. It’s Puzo’s choice to use that town and have the Ellis Island official change Vito’s name to it that matters. This. In fact, maybe Puzo meant that name change to be the first step in Vito’s destiny…the change from “Andolini” (a rather nondescript Italian surname) to “Corleone”–lionheart. ETA: I don’t have the book in front of me, but now that I think of it, in the original novel (parts of which went into **Godfather II** ), IIRC, Vito CHOSE the name of his village as his new surname rather than having it slapped on him at Ellis Island. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=64) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117.md?page=66)