I’ve not seen The Help dozens of times ,but certainly a half dozen, and it wasn’t until the most recent that I realized when Celia is burying her miscarried fetus under a patch of flowers in her yard that there are two other patches of flowers behind her indicating she’d buried 2 previous miscarriages before that. At least I think that what we’re meant to get from it (?) :smack:
There’s a Della Street in Stockton. Unfortunately, Margaret is an avenue.
Speaking of Monty Python, this is more like “things you realized the third time you’ve watched them”, but I watched Python first when it was on MTV in the 80s. Then when I saw it on PBS in the 2000s I wondered why MTV took out the vast majority of the links and only played the sketches. My first thought is that it was to edit the show down in order to show the commercials (and partly because they thought the audience wanted to see the sketches.) I thought the links were, while certainly not consistently great, part of the essence of Python.
Then, when I got the DVD set and watched it for the third time, I realized, while the links are not consistently uproarious, they are consistently filthy. Probably a better policy to default to not showing the links than to risk a nasty controversy in the prime time 80s (rather than 11pm on PBS in the 2000s.)
Watching Pulp Fiction for the 10^10^10th time or so and just, in the final coffee shop scene, just noticed that Yolanda weakly barks “shut up” to Vince while Jules is yelling at him to shut up.
Yes, I’m pretty sure that’s what we are meant to get from that scene.
This just occurred to me: The title of Disney’s children’s film The Lady and The Tramp comes from the (definitely not for children) song The Lady Is A Tramp.
I had to check on this. The song dates from 1937. The movie The Lady and the Tramp dates from 1955, although it’s based on a 1953 book that’s either called The Lady and the Tramp or Happy Dan, the Cynical Dog. In any event, the song well predates the movie and the book that was its inspiration.
The original is Ward Greene’s short story “Happy Dan, the Cynical Dog” which appeared in the February 1945 *Cosmopolitan *(a very different magazine from the one Helen Gurley Brown made famous).
This is tangential, but every Revolutionary War movie makes a big deal of the Battle of Bunker Hill (which actually took place on Breed’s Hill). I was just in Boston, staying down the street from Bunker Hill Community College. The side streets rose at about a 45 degree angle, like San Francisco except much narrower, with cars parked along both sides. Somehow it never occurred to me that the real world Bunker Hill was anything more than a name.
Annie-Xmas’s point was that the song was the inspiration for the movie title, not the other way around.
(And I don’t know if it matters, but the movie’s title is Lady and the Tramp (no “The”).)
Yes – that’s obvious. Didn’t my post make that clear?
A lot of books, working to correct mistakes of the past, point out that the Battle of Bunker Hill was really fought on Breed’s Hill.
What they fail to make clear is whether the one with the monument – which is called the Bunker Hill Monument – is on Bunker Hill or Breed’s Hill. This drove me nuts for a time.
It turns out that a.) The Battle really was fought on Breed’s Hill, and b.) That’s where the monument is.
I think the confusion of names stems from this being called “The Battle of Bunker Hill” (although both Bunker and Breed’s Hill were occupied and fortified), but with the bulk of the fight not surprisingly being on Breed’s Hill, closer to Boston and higher. Evidently nobody wanted to change the name, so the Bunker Hill Monument is on Breed’s Hill.
When you said, “the song well predates the movie and the book that was its inspiration,” I got confused about “its inspiration” meant the song’s inspiration or the movie’s inspiration.
That’s becuase Breeds hill is smaller than Bunker hill, and at the time of the battler, Breeds Hill wasnt even named (well, I have heard both ways, so this is IIRC). So, they couldnt have called it The Battle of Breeds Hill", not to mention the original objective was Bunker Hill.
Take a look at this period map, there is no Breeds Hill.
Maybe not a childrens’ song, but in its original context the singer is defending the Lady, “tramp” having a connotation different from what we might assume today.
Scientific Proof here: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=663306&highlight=tramp
And so seeing what you thought was an ambiguity you assumed that I’d gotten wrong what was so plainly stated. That’s rather rude.
I find it hard to believe that Breed’s hill was anonymous at the time. That would be extremely odd if the larger and more prominent hill wasn’t named.
Here’s a 1775 clearly showing “Breed’s Hill”
Interesing note:
This probably isn’t worth trying to clear up, but:
At the time I posted, I didn’t see ambiguity—I saw you reporting on the dates for the song and the movie, and the only reason I could imagine those dates were relevant was that you were trying to establish which came first. And the only reason I could think that you were doing that was that you mistakenly thought Annie-Xmas was claiming that the song was inspired by the movie.
Only later, after you responded, did I go back and see that I was confused, and why.
Thank you for that.
I’m sorry – it seems to me that I’ve frequently been jumped on by people who misread my posts and are convinced that I am blatantly wrong about something that seems perfectly clear.
Well, I mean, it can be argued that you did help genocide the Metalunans… and that seems kinda wrong to me, tbh. 
In Pulp Fiction, when Mia is ordering her $5 shake (which I remember sounded expensive at the time but now is considered a reasonable price), Buddy Holly asks her if she wants it “Martin and Lewis or Amos and Andy”. I only figured out while watching again last night that he’s asking if she wants vanilla or chocolate.