I agree, and Gulch becoming the Wicked Witch of the East doesn’t make sense within the structure of the story: four other characters in Oz are counterparts of people in Kansas. Why would Gulch, the main adversary in Kansas, turn into someone who’s never seen again?
Unless the two witches are not only sisters, but identical twins.
Yes, but the lower part of the Charles River is a tidal estuary. I don’t think there were many of those in caverns in canyons in Gold Rush territory.
My source was the trivia section on IMDB. Further Googling other cites also states it’s the Wicked Witch of the East. I didn’t find any that dispute it.
Yeah, well, the trivia section of IMDb (to which I myself have contributed) is full of stuff from random nut jobs on the internet, unlike the SDMB, which is…
Not any more, or at least not where the Red Line crosses it. There’s a dam downstream pf the Longfellow Bridge which I assume predates Lehrer’s song. I’ll have to check the next time I’m at the Charles Station to see if any seawater is visible.
Having fallen into the Charles River basin*, after the building of the dam, I can assure you it was salty then, and probably when Lehrer wrote the song, too.
How many times do I have to tell you this, Cal; no car surfing on the duck boats.
But Gulch is never seen again either. The film implies she turns into a Witch, like the East, and dies there in OZ. Gulch is not in the books, of course.
So she’s the identical twin of the WWotW?
I admit that there’s a certain logic to her being seen in the tornado, and later somehow being caught under the house when it lands. But I don’t see the ruby slippers (which are obviously sepia in that scene), nor any sign of striped stockings.
And the WWotW dies in Oz too, so there’s no more reason to expect to see Gulch in the final scene if she turned into the WWotW than if she became the WWotE.
“Misses Gulch? Yeah, she was ridin’ her bike durin’ that tornader and Lem from down South said he saw her fall into a puddle and never came out. There was all sort of screamin’ and cursin’ but they never found her body. All that was left was her hat.”
…highly select and elite nutjobs on the Internet.
…plus a few total dipsticks.
…who would like to remind you that dipsticks have a long and proud legacy of aiding (and many times saving) the engine that they’re built to serve.
I didn’t realize that you were Waylon Jennings!
I checked the screenplay (this one) and it just says “her clothes change into a flying robe and pointed hat of a witch”. No witch specified.
Top. Nutjobs.
I have been a fan of Douglas Fairbanks ever since seeing a few of his silent films with live organ accompaniment by the late Ray Brubacher at the American Film Institute theater in Washington, DC, in the late 1970s. A particular favorite of mine is The Mark of Zorro (1920).
I was watching The Princess Bride for the umpteenth time, and happened to watch one of the special features that pointed out that the Dread Pirate Roberts’ mask and headscarf are taken from the ones Fairbanks wore as Zorro.
They’re quite comfortable. I predict that everyone will be wearing them in the future.
This is an artifact from the movie, but it doesn’t seem to be supported by the original text. In the book:
“You can not tell it,” he then said “because I wear a cape and a mask. But I am smiling now.”
“Why?”
“Because I am not left-handed either,” said the man in black.
Goldman must have envisioned a different mask than the one used in the movie.
Well, yes, I was speaking about the movie. But except for the mention of the cape, which the DPR doesn’t have in the movie, I don’t see what your basis is for claiming that…
Goldman must have envisioned a different mask than the one used in the movie.
The book also mentions he wears a hood (presumably, then, a hooded cape).
But if director Rob Reiner decided against giving him a hooded cape, there seems to be no reason to think that the mask the DPR wears in the book is unlike the one in the film.
In any case, the obvious thing I hadn’t realized after seeing both of the films many times was the similarity in the masks (and indeed, the entire costumes) of Zorro and the DPR.