Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)

E-Sabbath, am I missing something or did you post that to the wrong thread?

That’s because maps of Oz had the Winkie country and the WWW’s castle on the right side of the map, and the Munchkin country and the WWE’s castle on the left side of the map.

This was very likely because whoever they hired to draw the map back in 190x Did Not Do the Research, and Just Didn’t Care. But it later became established Oz cannon that in the land of Oz East and West are reversed. It is a fairyland after all.

Pratchett is just full of little references. Sator Square for example. There is a website somewhere that explains them page by page.

Aren’t the Gargoyles called Victor and Hugo? Victor Hugo was the writer…

And Sherlock Holmes was based on doctor Joseph Bell. In one episode House even has a book written by Joseph Bell which he throws in the bin.

The non-reflection in Shadow of the Vampire is obviously done deliberately, knowing that there was a reflection in the original.

But the reflection in the original movie?
You do realise I hope that Nosferatu was made in 1922? They didn’t even have sound or colour film, let alone special effects.
Of course they could have taken the mirror off the wall. But I doubt if much research went into it; it was just an illegal adaptation of Bram Stoker’s novel.

And anyway, in the movie “Bram Stoker’s Dracula” Dracula can walk in broad daylight! It doesn’t hurt him, although it reduces him to a low powered vampire. (Start Eddie Izzard sketch…)

Making a mirror not reflect what the audience expects it to reflect doesn’t take much in the way of special effects, and was totally within the capabilities of 1922 filmmakers.

It just suddenly clicked for me that the Xanth series by legendary hack Piers Anthony is self-titled. PiersAnthony. PierXanthony. Xanth.

God, what a egomaniac.

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Of course they had special effects - hell, Nosferatu added to the standard vampire mythos with special effects - a fade was used to make Orlok disintegrate in the sun. A point that doesn’t exist in Stoker’s novel.

Interiors were filmed in a studio, not in real buildings, so it’s not like they couldn’t use camera angles, a hole in the wall, a photograph, or any number of other tricks to make the mirror not reflect Shreck, if they felt it was important - look outside the window, it’s clear they weren’t too concerned with making things look realistic. (Or, of course, they could have just not put one where it would reflect him.)

Now, to make the two versions of the scene mesh, one could assume that Murnau, after killing the real Orlok, went back and refilmed the scene with an actor, making sure to get him in a mirror to hide the fact that he originally filmed it with a real no-reflection vampire.

Thank you for not making those into links to you-know-where. You’ve saved poor innocent posters countless hours of surfing.

Posted it to the wrong thread. I meant to post it to the ‘digital bargains’ thread. My bad.

I wonder how many of us are Tropers, anyway?

Many people, when in Salzburg, will visit the saltmines and suddenly realise that’s where the city got it’s name from. The same is probably true of Salt Lake City.

Is that so? I don’t know. Supposing the mirror is there by accident, how would they have removed the monsters reflection?

In Shadow of the Vampire his reflection is clearly absent on purpose. In Nosferatu I can’t immediately think of a trick that was available in 1922. Replacing the mirror with a photo, or removing it alltogether, yes. A hole in the wall? For an identical but mirrorred room you mean? But is the reflection there in on purpose?

Perhaps they simply did not care or did not pick up on the fact that vampires aren’t supposed to be visible in the mirror. After all, it isn’t vitally important in the book.

That’s not just in the movie Bram Stoker’s Dracula, it’s in Bram Stoker’s Dracula as well. Count Dracula can go out during the day if he wants to, but he apparently doesn’t like it and his powers are more limited than they are at night. He does it when he has to, though. In Chapter 24 Dracula is described as visiting the docks at about 5 pm (more than an hour before sunset) wearing “a hat of straw which suit not him or the time” to arrange for passage out of England.

Actually, I doubt that ever occurred even to the Beatles.

No, actually, that comes from when the Mormons first arrived in Utah. Their scouts reported back to Brigham Young: “It’s the promised land! Most of the time we’ll have nothing to do but fish and make love!”

Giggles came from the tent of Young’s 27 wives.

Brigham ordered: “Salt the lake!”

The simplest way to make a mirror not show a reflection of the vampire is to just choose your camera angles carefully, and that was certainly within their capabilities of the time. Next-simplest would be to make it a window onto a duplicate room, instead of an actual mirror, but they might have objected to the cost of an entire duplicate set. If the camera position was fixed, they could use a still picture (painting or photograph) of the reflection of the empty room in the mirror frame, though that would be given away if the camera ever moved. And even if the camera moved and the mirror were free-standing in the middle of the room, if they can move the camera precisely and in a replicable way, they could make one run through the scene without the actors, then put a green cover over the mirror, and do it again with the vampire actor (though I don’t know when the green-screen process was invented; probably some time after colored film, or at least after Technicolor).

I only recently realized how many rock riffs were written in the pentatonic scale. Several years after being told by my guitar teacher that it was the best scale for improvising in, too.

I love the Golden Girls. Sophia was always talking about her horrible nursing home, Shady Pines.

It just occurred to me this morning that shady is also a joke implying sketchy, not tree-lined.