Can this possibly be right? This page has ~118,000 views, out of about 2.2 million for Cafe Society. 1 out of every 22 page views in the history of CS has been this thread?
Cafe Society has 2.2 million posts, not views.
Well, that’s a potentially obvious thing about a creative work that I didn’t realize…
If you listen very closely, you will hear them saying “Oh we love…the Old One.” Naturally, they couldn’t have a Satanic reference in the official script so they sanitized it.
Inconceivable!
Yeah, but it turned out that word didn’t mean what he thought it meant.
Than you very much. But as the OP, I have to point out that about half of the posts are people saying “I didn’t realize that.:smack:”
First of all, that’s a result of your listening very closely, not a result of them saying it. Second, even if they were saying that (which, I reiterate, they’re not), what makes you think that “the Old One” is Satan? The obvious candidate for “Old One”, in context, would be the Witch.
Here’s a clip. Judge for yourselves.
It’s clear to me that they’re saying:
Paul is dead. But only once. For twenty minutes. In 1960.
Even if it were to say that, which evidence contradicts, that would seem too innocuous for NetTrekker to say it “creeps me out” above. I suspect he heard something else.
“There was a little tool shed where she made us suffer, The Old One”
And that’s leaving aside everything you get from Fezzik or Inigo when they’re working with Vizzini, or anything from Westley when he’s just The Man in Black. I think everybody gets good lines; you just don’t have a lot of truly bad people.
Well…witches are in league with the Devil so the minion monkeys are as well, by proxy. And Satan is much older than the witch (unless of course she is an incarnation of the Old One himself :eek:)…it’s simple math, really.
The sound of the chanting is not very clear on the YouTube clip; a low sampling rate was probably used to digitize it. You would probably have to go back to an actual analog film reel or VCR tape to hear the words more clearly.
And yes, it’s creepy for such a supposedly ‘innocent’ film.
Maybe next people can post to tell us about the doll that says “Islam is the light.” :rolleyes: Someone remind me of the Straight Dope’s motto, again?
Okay, I’ll give you that one. And I did say Vizzini was great (and you left out one of my favorites).
But Fezzik and Inigo do turn out to be good guys, as does The Man in Black. I stand by what I said. The evil characters are mundane and banal (the Humperdinck quote plays on that); it’s the good guys in that movie who have all the passion and verve. And the dialog reflects that.
Well, I was going to disagree with you vociferously, but this re-statement makes a lot of sense, so I will just provide a few quotes from another movie where the good guys get all the good lines…
And, really, pretty much the rest of the script. The bad guys don’t have a whole lot of screen time or dialog.
Speaking of bad-guy lines, it was a while into re-viewing BATMAN that I noticed the bit about the Joker’s quote is woefully contrived. Remember the bit where he’s preparing to shoot Bruce Wayne, and asks whether he’s ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? “I always ask that of all my prey,” he explains. This prompts Bruce’s flashback, remembering a youthful and Jack-Nicholson-esque mugger asking whether li’l Bruce has ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight, which thereby lets our hero make a key deduction.
Except . . . he doesn’t ask that of all his prey. When gunning down Eckhardt, he just says “think about the future.” When gunning down Grissom, he merely explains that “Jack is dead, my friend. You can call me Joker – and as you can see, I’m a lot happier.” Stab a mob boss in the neck with a sharpened quill? “Time to pay the check,” he quips, adding that “the pen is truly mightier than the sword.” Electrocute another mob boss? “Oh, I got a live one here … hot tiiime, in the old tooown, tonight.” And he doesn’t mention the moonlight when he’s blanketing parade-goers with poison gas, sure as he likewise doesn’t bother when simply asking Bob for a gun, which he promptly shoots Bob with.
No, the only person he ever asks about dancing in the pale moonlight is Bruce Wayne. Why? To move the plot along.
Plus, he didn’t shoot young Bruce the first time, so those he asks aren’t necessarily his prey.
Going to disagree on this one. Rugen has some great lines; not just “that’s the worst thing I’ve ever heard. How marvelous.” but also “Tell me, how did that make you feel. Remember, this is for posterity.”