Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)

Edit - Ooops, missed one very critical word in the post I’m replying to, so this post rendered vaguely nonsensical. >> Still, an interesting bit of trivia. >>

Noooope. (See, in particular, the Literature section…I think the Film section has a significant amount of vandalism…)

Doesn’t even come close to, for instance, the full title of Robinson Crusoe (since we’re talking about stuff referencing it):

Reading every page of this thread has led me to join the forums…

Re: The Beatles’ Yellow Submarine:

…sky of blue
and sea of green
in our yellow submarine…

I was a kid when Yellow Submarine came out and my parents were “Hippies”…my Dad once told me (and showed me, circa 1969) that the Yellow Submarine was a joint. Back then most rolling papers were a yellow color and everybody rolled their joints with it. He pointed out how the joint looked like a submarine, then he lit it and said “Sky of blue…” pointing to the bluish smoke rising up from the lit joint, “…and sea of green…” pointing to the pot inside the joint, took a hit and finished with “…IN our yellow, submarine.” He said the sea of green was “in” the Yellow Submarine and represented the pot, and the smoke, as it passed through the pot into the mouth was also how the “sky of blue” was “in” the Yellow Submarine. That’s how they both were “in” the Yellow Submarine. Then he said that’s why the Beatles’ music changed so drastically, because they had discovered pot and all sorts of other goodies.

How did your dad explain the rocking horse people eating marshmallow pies?

Don’t recall discussing that one. But from an interview John Lennon gave to Playboy right before he died, he said that song was based on a picture Julian made. Don’t know if I believe him. But I think I would like to get to know those Rocking Horse People, and try some of their marshmallow pies.

I’m honored. Especially since I started this thread over four years ago!!

There’s a VERY subtle moment in A Christmas Carol that I didn’t notice until someone else pointed it out. (It might have been on this very forum.)

When Scrooge and the Ghost of Christmas Present visit Fred’s Christmas party, Fred’s wife is described as not exerting herself physically–sitting out the more boisterous games like blindman’s bluff, with an afghan over her knees, but joining in the word games and the singing.

Later, on the “real” Christmas Day, when Scrooge goes to visit them, the two are looking over their table to make sure it’s set right, when Scrooge calls out to them. Fred’s wife is startled, and Scrooge thinks, “he had forgotten about her sitting in the corner, or he wouldn’t have startled her on any account.”

Dickens is indicating, in the most Victorian way possible, that Fred’s wife is pregnant!

Actually, the Gold Key comic Space Family Robinson preceded the TV show Lost in Space by a couple of years. The comics people considered suing the makers of Lost in Space, but figured TV had deeper pockets, and they’d get more mileage out of the free publicit, so they settled for putting “Lost in Space” atop their logo, even though their comic had no Robot or Dr. Smith, and had the wrong number of kids (with different names).

The picture is on several internet sites, like this one:

It’s entirely possible John was in a store and saw a box of theseor some similar product.

It is an awesome thread idea!

Wow, thanks, very cool! Thanks for turning me on to the site!

Oh hell yeah! Love those things :smiley:

I too love this thread, and just want to point out, that about two seconds ago, while looking at the image of Little Debbie Marshmallow Pies, I realized what “rocking horse people” means.

It’s children. Children love rocking horses, and will gladly eat a marshmallow pie while rocking on their horse.

OMG, I love this thread even more than I thought was possible.

I want to echo this sentiment, as I have NOT read every post. Yet.

So … many … spoilers … in … thread …

I just watched that for like the 100th time and STILL MISSED THAT!

OMG … this thread, it so much delivers.

Before I even dare say anything, isn’t there a Blade Runner thread here somewhere which argues about this for a hundred pages?

Or did I dream that?

Gaff knew of the implanted memories that Deckard has, which is why he left the tin-foil origami of a unicorn and didn’t kill Rachael.

DECKARD IS A REPLICANT!

It took me twenty years to catch that.

Until the last few posts in this thread I wasn’t aware that marshmallow pies existed.

Over in this thread, it’s pointed out the Jingle Bell Rock’s lyric “dancin’ and prancin’” refers to Dancer and Prancer, two of Santa’s reindeers.

Well, I did not make that connection.

After reading A Clockwork Orange nth times I finally realized the protagonists name, Alex DeLarge, was roughly translated to Alexander the Great. :smack:

Good one. Really good one.

It’s hard to see how you would get that from reading ACO, since the name DeLarge appears nowhere in the book! Alex does refer to himself sardonically as “Alexander the Large” when he is having his way with the two girls from the record shop. Anthony Burgess pointed out in an essay that he had not given Alex a last name, but Stanley Kubrick gave him two: he is identified at different points in the movie as Alex DeLarge and Alex Burgess.

You’re probably right. Haven’t read the book in awhile. I just assumed that’s where I remembered it from. Going over it in my mind, I think I remember Alex stating his full name during the prison intake process.

From Wikipedia:

I stand corrected, but I still wonder if the reference Kubrick was making to Alexander the Great was intentional or not seeing as Alex was a megalomaniac, among other things.

This may be so obvious to everyone else that it’s uninteresting, but to me it was a mini-revelation:

In the Christmas song Silver Bells, the second verse begins:

“Strings of street lights, even stop lights
Blink a bright red and green”

To the extent I ever thought about it I guess I thought they were saying that even the stop lights were decorated. Tonight while listening to it I realized they’re just pointing out that stop lights literally blink red and green (and, nowadays, yellow), much as they do every other season of the year. Oh!!

(BTW, the linked video of the song’s original incarnation is very pleasant, brief moment of outdated racial humor notwithstanding…)