Obvious things about a creative work you realize after the millionth time (OPEN SPOILERS POSSIBLE)

Nm.

That in Yellow Submarine, when the Blue Meanie approaches a victim (? who claims he’s blue-ish as a last plea? haven’t seen it for years), he stops and peers at him and say’s “Blue-ish? You don’t look blue-ish,” is a play on the famous “Jewish? [Funny,] You don’t look Jewish.”

Just so people know if they didn’t, French.

My dog’s not in this fight, but, having recently seen Godot performed in Yiddish (now there’s a trip), I found out that the script had to be approved by the Beckett Estate, down to single words.

The butler explicitly says that he heard Kane say “Rosebud” right before he died. It’s right after the flashback about how Kane reacted when Susan left him. The butler says he heard Kane say “Rosebud” then, and again when he died. I just pulled up the scene on Amazon Prime and here’s the exact dialogue:

JOURNALIST: I see. And that’s what you know about Rosebud?
BUTLER: Yeah. I heard him say it that other time too. He just said “Rosebud”. Then he dropped the glass ball and it broke on the floor. He didn’t say anything after that, and I knew he was dead. He said all kinds of things that didn’t mean anything.

Which is why I said, “Kill me”.

On rewatching the american version of “The Office” not long ago: In the first or second season episode “Booze cruise” Roy finally asks Pam to get married right on the boat and Pam having second thoughts tells him “I don’t want to get married on a boat! i want a real wedding, with dancing!”. Of course many years later Pam and Jim got married on a boat, and then they went and had a fake wedding punctuated by an elaborate dance number.

Obviously the Butler is not in the room when Kane dies. He was a damn liar! Of course he was getting a thousand bucks to tell what he knew.

His repeating the death scene was a fiction. He WAS NOT IN THAT ROOM!

Gaaahhhh. Arguing over Citizen Kane. How pedantic can I become?

Maybe he was taking a dump in the en suite can and left the door cracked open. :dubious:

His “Mmnnyyess” is the greatest yes/no on film.

It isn’t obvious. The opening scene never shows a full view of the room. The butler doesn’t need to have been in the bedroom to hear Kane anyway, nor does he ever claim that he was in the room. He could have been in an adjoining room or hallway but still close enough to hear Kane say “Rosebud” and then the snow globe falling and breaking.

There is nothing in the movie to indicate that the butler is lying. Everything he says about Kane’s death is consistent with what we see at the beginning of the movie. The simplest explanation for this, and the one best supported by the movie, is that the butler is telling the truth and heard what he says he heard.

I’m inclined to believe that Raymond was in the room (somewhere) to hear Kane’s last word.

True, we didn’t see him, but it was a big room and there was probably an echo. And SOMEONE had to switch off the light.

Given Raymond’s overall shady vibe (Welles told the actor to play it as if he’d been stealing from Kane for years and had set up a Swiss bank account), I imagine he thought Kane was dead or close enough to it, started rifling around in the drawers for those cuff links he always liked, was startled by Kane’s whisper of “Rosebud…” and the sound of shattering glass, shoved the cuff links back in the drawer and adopted a suitably shocked and grief-stricken look as the nurse rushed in.

I have to say I am relieved they didn’t keep all of that. Although I do enjoy the one moment when he helps Sam and Joanna get together. :slight_smile: And I guess he was doing his best to keep Alan Rickman and Skanky Girl apart.

The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia leaves someone’s fate out…

Spoilers, I guess… I really don’t feel bad about spoiling things older than I am.

The brother comes back to town, meets a friend Andy Wollow in a bar. Andy tells the brother that his wife’s been cheating with Seth Amos, and that Andy himself has also been with his wife.

Brother goes to get his gun. Andy goes home. Brother comes back to find Andy already dead.

Brother is quickly hanged for the murder he didn’t commit.

Singer (who it turns out is little sister to the main character) shares that she killed Andy and also her brother’s cheating wife.

So, brother’s dead, Andy’s dead, sister-in-law is dead… what about Seth Amos?

You could say the sister doesn’t know about that other infidelity… but the sister’s the one who’s relating the entire story to us so it’d be weird if she doesn’t know that part of the story she tells us.

So, I loved that song (The Nights… Georgia) and I would go around singing it all the time.

When I was 5.

Why nobody stopped me, I have no idea.

Did they at least encourage you to sing “hanged” over “hung” like I have to?

I’ve recently linked the Neil Gaiman short story “Other People” on this very board, in the “What is Hell like ?” thread to be specific.
I really like that short story, even if I couldn’t really tell you why. Probably one of my favourites of* Fragile Things*. I’ve read it a whole bunch, but I never got it. And when I read it again yesterday, I didn’t get it. It’s only this morning in a dramatic flash of insight upon waking up that I *finally *understood that the protagonist and the deformed tortured demon going to town on him are one and the same. Hence, the “time is fluid here” leitmotiv.

Like, I had understood that the demon was really a man who’d gone through it all himself (which I thought/think was clever), but not that it was literally *the *man (which is order of magnitudes more fucked up).

When I was 5, I did the same thing with “Darlin’ Corey.” Just the first two lines of the chorus, though. I thought it was a fun “work song” about digging a hole.

Wow, nice spot. I did get “Andy Capp” and “The Lockhorns” without explanation, which not all of my friends did.

What is the joke with those ones?

If you lock horns with someone, you fight or argue with them. Mr and Mrs Lockhorn were/are always bickering about something.

Andy Capp … wears a big cap? :dubious: :confused: