# obviously gay christian men in the closet... **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 16, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317 "2010-10-16T03:06:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PennyGaunjworth\_of\_chicago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@PennyGaunjworth\_of\_chicago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PennyGaunjworth_of_chicago)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/1 "2010-10-16T03:06:15Z")
…thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/2 "2010-10-16T03:07:36Z")
That’s hot. ---
**Author:** ![statsman1982](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/3 "2010-10-16T03:43:31Z")
I thought that was one of the main reasons men went into the priesthood. (I’m semi-serious). ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/4 "2010-10-16T04:04:30Z")
I heard it more with nunneries or monasteries, myself. I do believe that a musician recently came out: Michael Bolton. And theater seems to have a lot gay people. I believe many suspect that Tyler Perry, who actually does Christian theater in drag and is a confirmed bachelor is actually gay. Michael Bolton was in the closet for a while, despite writing songs that sounded suspiciously like those of Elton John. I don’t know whether he came out because he was mostly finished with his career, or being gay ruined it. I do know that I have not seen any churches using his songs anymore. And it makes me sad. I really like at least three of them (“Thank You”, “Pledge Allegiance to the Lamb”, and “I Will Praise the Lord”). ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/5 "2010-10-16T04:06:46Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I heard it more with nunneries or monasteries, myself. > > I do believe that a musician recently came out: Michael Bolton. And theater seems to have a lot gay people. I believe many suspect that Tyler Perry, who actually does Christian theater in drag and is a confirmed bachelor is actually gay. > > Michael Bolton was in the closet for a while, despite writing songs that sounded suspiciously like those of Elton John. I don’t know whether he came out because he was mostly finished with his career, or being gay ruined it. I do know that I have not seen any churches using his songs anymore. And it makes me sad. I really like at least three of them (“Thank You”, “Pledge Allegiance to the Lamb”, and “I Will Praise the Lord”). Why should he change – they’re the ones who suck. 😃 [sub]Seriously though, when was this? And are you sure it was Michael Bolton? I don’t remember him doing hymns.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/6 "2010-10-16T04:28:03Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I heard it more with nunneries or monasteries, myself. > > I do believe that a musician recently came out: Michael Bolton. And theater seems to have a lot gay people. I believe many suspect that Tyler Perry, who actually does Christian theater in drag and is a confirmed bachelor is actually gay. > > Michael Bolton was in the closet for a while, despite writing songs that sounded suspiciously like those of Elton John. I don’t know whether he came out because he was mostly finished with his career, or being gay ruined it. I do know that I have not seen any churches using his songs anymore. And it makes me sad. I really like at least three of them (“Thank You”, “Pledge Allegiance to the Lamb”, and “I Will Praise the Lord”). I believe you’re thinking of Ray Boltz. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/7 "2010-10-16T04:36:24Z")
> [@PennyGaunjworth\_of\_chicago](#): > > …thoughts? Could you give us even a small clue as to what you’re looking for? ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/8 "2010-10-16T11:27:45Z")
> [@PennyGaunjworth\_of\_chicago](#): > > …thoughts? Nope. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/9 "2010-10-16T11:50:57Z")
There’s a hole in my church’s confessional box. Think my pastor might be gay? ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/10 "2010-10-16T11:54:24Z")
If you have both a confessional box and a pastor, I think you’re more confused than he is. (Unless there’s some denomination that does both that I’m completely ignorant of?) ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/11 "2010-10-16T11:55:02Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > There’s a hole in my church’s confessional box. Think my pastor might be gay? I don’t believe that you go to church. Edited to add: partly because of the Pastor/Confessional issue, and partly because of, well, you. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/12 "2010-10-16T11:59:30Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Michael Bolton was in the closet for a while, despite writing songs that sounded suspiciously like those of Elton John. I’m not sure if this makes a difference to what you’re saying, but Elton John doesn’t write his own music. Most of it was written by Bernie Taupin, who, to the best of my knowledge, isn’t gay. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/13 "2010-10-16T12:03:19Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > If you have both a confessional box and a pastor, I think you’re more confused than he is. (Unless there’s some denomination that does both that I’m completely ignorant of?) Er, yes, I’m a member of the… uh… Restorative Church of the… um… Charismatic Christ? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/14 "2010-10-16T12:05:45Z")
If you stick your dick in a glory hole, and it gets cut off by a psycho, after you’re released from the hospital will you experience “phantom limb” syndrome same as if you’d had your leg amputated? Or instead of a psycho, it’s in another dimension like that little girl in that old Twilight Zone, do you get to have wonderful, fourth-dimensional sex? (just trying to redeem the thread, sicnce the oxymoron “obviously gay” and “in the closet” is all too reminiscent for the “that guy must be a faggot, I can just tell it.” bullshit a lot of us had to suffer in junior high) ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/15 "2010-10-16T12:52:23Z")
Having 2 relatives, one a RCC priest another a Nun, neither are gay.They were led to believe they had a calling, how ever both have had breakdowns, It is my belief that living an abnormal life is not good for anyone. Some religions(not just the RCC. teaches a bad idea of sexuality. Then we have learned that homo sexuality is a biological happening, not choice,so some who go into a religious life may use it as an escape. It is usuallyreligious beliefs that cause people to torment people who are gay, and one of the reason’s that some now have commited suicide,I wonder if the gay feel there is no escape from being themselves. Perhaps if the one’s who do the tormenting were taught that they should not judge another or love their neighbor perhaps there would be less tormenting. And the tormenters should be taught that they are responsible in a way for the death of an innocent person. Lifting the spirits of another is good for both people,putting them down brings both down! ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/16 "2010-10-16T13:16:45Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > That’s hot. Kudos, best one line reply to an OP I’ve seen in ages. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/17 "2010-10-16T13:24:55Z")
When I was working in a coffee shop, we had a stream of guys come through one day, all wearing special pinkish bracelets. From their manner and care with grooming, I jumped to the conclusion that they were gay. Turns out they were attendees at an evangelical revival down the street. Coulda fooled me. ---
**Author:** ![Monstera\_deliciosa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monstera_deliciosa/32/109_2.png) [@Monstera\_deliciosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstera_deliciosa)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/18 "2010-10-16T13:29:17Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > > [@BigT](#): > > > > Michael Bolton was in the closet for a while, despite writing songs that sounded suspiciously like those of Elton John. > > I’m not sure if this makes a difference to what you’re saying, but Elton John doesn’t write his own music. Most of it was written by Bernie Taupin, who, to the best of my knowledge, isn’t gay. Elton John does write his own _music_. His collaborator Bernie Taupin writes _lyrics_. > [@Zsofia](#): > > If you have both a confessional box and a pastor, I think you’re more confused than he is. (Unless there’s some denomination that does both that I’m completely ignorant of?) Catholics do occasionally use the term pastor [informally,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastor#Roman_Catholic.2C_Orthodox.2C_Anglican) usually in my experience, to refer to the senior priest in the parish. Also back when I was a churchgoer (years and years ago) there were men in the congregation, often in positions of leadership (choir directors, Sunday school teachers) that everyone “knew” were gay. It was mostly a kind of a “don’t ask, don’t tell” situation. This was a predominately black Baptist church. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/19 "2010-10-16T13:35:48Z")
> [@Monstera\_deliciosa](#): > > Catholics do occasionally use the term pastor [informally,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastor#Roman_Catholic.2C_Orthodox.2C_Anglican) usually in my experience, to refer to the senior priest in the parish. Yeah, that’s what I meant! ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317/20 "2010-10-16T14:03:15Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > > [@Monstera\_deliciosa](#): > > > > Catholics do occasionally use the term pastor [informally,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastor#Roman_Catholic.2C_Orthodox.2C_Anglican) usually in my experience, to refer to the senior priest in the parish. > > Yeah, that’s what I meant! Like, in bed informally, or do you mean at the church social? That said, I still don’t believe Clocky could go into a church without triggering The End Times. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obviously-gay-christian-men-in-the-closet/557317.md?page=2)