# \#OccupyWallStreet **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 19, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851 "2011-09-19T18:27:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/981 "2011-10-19T22:41:51Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I have a puny 401k retirement account. Are you saying that my money is being inadvertantly lumped in with thousands of other middle class chumps to make the members of the board of Fidelity seem richer than they are? No. Those are your assets. They do not count as assets of fidelity. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/982 "2011-10-19T23:10:06Z")
I won’t believe corporations are people until Texas executes one. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/983 "2011-10-19T23:18:00Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Time for another anaology that you are, of course, free to hand wave away: 😉 > > Who’s more evil, the drug seller (the politicians who actually write the favorable tax laws and buisness regulations), or the buyer? Your statement is like saying the drug pusher is less evil because there are so many buyers with so much money. They can’t help themselves, they MUST sell! > > (I label the politicians as the drug pushers here, because they have the regulatory power.) > > I thought busting the junkies was considered the failure of the war on drugs, and not chasing down the smugglers and pushers? I think your analogy is backwards. The pushers are the guys with the big cash prizes, the politicians are buying cash and paying integrity. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/984 "2011-10-19T23:21:27Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I won’t believe corporations are people until Texas executes one. Help Wanted: WeSaySo Corp. is inteviewing for an intern position at its Texas location. Will serve as “stand-in” representative at important civil/legal functions. Must be a “team player”. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/985 "2011-10-19T23:35:54Z")
> [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#): > > You’re deliberately misrepresenting me. > > Below is my first contribution to the discussion. I produced a link to Kalle Lasn’s exact words, with no commentary from my self or anyone else. I felt it was relevant and worth reading, especially when the accusations of anti-semetism were being thrown around. For you to lump me into that group without any reason is a real shit move. > > I’ll graciously accept an apology. Piffle, There is no chance that you got to that link unless someone with an agenda told you what it meant, and where to look, since it does not mean what you think it does, it is a useless cite as you are now saying it does not mean that you are referring to anti-semitism, so I’m glad we could figure how useless you are. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/986 "2011-10-19T23:38:17Z")
You may now proceed with your gracious acceptance. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/987 "2011-10-19T23:41:50Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Help Wanted: WeSaySo Corp. is inteviewing for an intern position at its Texas location. Will serve as “stand-in” representative at important civil/legal functions. Must be a “team player”. Generous deferred compensation. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/988 "2011-10-19T23:50:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Help Wanted: WeSaySo Corp. is inteviewing for an intern position at its Texas location. Will serve as “stand-in” representative at important civil/legal functions. Must be a “team player”. I hate job postings by headhunters. ---
**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/989 "2011-10-20T00:23:27Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Piffle, > > There is no chance that you got to that link unless someone with an agenda told you what it meant, and where to look, since it does not mean what you think it does, it is a useless cite as you are now saying it does not mean that you are referring to anti-semitism, so I’m glad we could figure how useless you are. You are in-fucking-sane. I felt it was relevant because it is the piece people are using to argue one way or the other about Mr. Lasn’s views. There is value in reading it because _primary source material is more useful than opinion pieces_. So I found the actual article, unabridged and un-commented, and presented it here to be read. You are an asshole for attacking my character for no reason. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/990 "2011-10-20T01:07:57Z")
> [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#): > > You are in-fucking-sane. > > I felt it was relevant because it is the piece people are using to argue one way or the other about Mr. Lasn’s views. There is value in reading it because _primary source material is more useful than opinion pieces_. So I found the actual article, unabridged and un-commented, and presented it here to be read. > > You are an asshole for attacking my character for no reason. Meh, and you brought that with no opinion, :), suffice to say I conclude now that then it was just a useless point (Hey, I’m easy! If you are not just a concern troll, then you are just recycling useless points). You just needed to look at the previous cites before even being concerned that the views you cited showed anything whatsoever regarding the current events. BTW, now that we are clear, people who are bringing that are not people at all IMHO, not you, that “people” that bring that point are worse than assholes as we know the context. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/991 "2011-10-20T02:19:37Z")
That last sentence? Did you use some sort of fancy software to translate it into Urdu, then to Finnish, and then back to English, and posted the result? ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/992 "2011-10-20T02:34:25Z")
> [@C3](#): > > According to the [Wall Street Journal](http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/10/19/what-percent-are-you/), you’re in the top 1% if you make over $506,000/year. How the heck are my girlfriend and I supposed to get by in New York City on mere hundreds of thousands a year?! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/993 "2011-10-20T02:37:06Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > That last sentence? Did you use some sort of fancy software to translate it into Urdu, then to Finnish, and then back to English, and posted the result? My brain does that and more! 🙂 But, yeah, I missed the edit window, I tried to say that if not a concern troll, that then he was just bringing a useless point that was already disposed of back in 2004. Whoever brought that to the attention of the poster are assholes IMHO, right now right wing sites are telling others that the article demonstrates anti-semitism from one of the organizers when that is not the case, it is really a stretch to claim ignorance on where this attempt at defamation is coming from. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/994 "2011-10-20T02:42:27Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > How the heck are my girlfriend and I supposed to get by in New York City on mere hundreds of thousands a year?! Well, shlt, if she can’t afford you… ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/995 "2011-10-20T04:46:29Z")
> [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#): > > Kalle Lasn, the “brains behind Occupy Wallstreet” has always had some heat on him in regards to the anti-semetism.. For example, here is an article he wrote, presented without commentary. > > [“Why won’t anyone admit they’re Jewish”](http://www.pinteleyid.com/adbusters.pdf) > > I don’t know enough about the situation to make a judgement call. Regardless, I think the Occupy people are doing this for the reasons they say, and not because they are fueled by some sinister agenda. This smacks of concern trolling. When you say, “Here’s an example of an article, which un-named sources are saying is evidence of a 25 megaton accusation”, you are JAQing off. Just Asking Questions is a dodge. Now it’s entirely possible that Sector 7G had a different intent. But bringing up horseshit accusations of bigotry is participating in a smear -intentionally or not- and unworthy of serious discourse. (Again though 3 similarly weak examples might be dog whistling. And a clearer example -say usage of a racial epithet- might be worth a look.) I dunno though, accusations of goat feltzing have followed Glenn Beck around for a while. Does anybody know if there’s anything to them? I’m Just Asking Questions. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Svinlesha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/22d042/32.png) [@Mr.Svinlesha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Svinlesha)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/996 "2011-10-20T05:16:54Z")
**Hero from Sector 7G** : Hey, no need to get your back up on my account — although you still haven’t fully answered my question. I’d never heard of Kalle Lasn before, but also, again – what make you write he’s the “brains behind Occupy Wallstreet”? I ask because I’ve been under that impression the OWS got it’s start with Anonymous. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/997 "2011-10-20T14:16:35Z")
Wow! The guy who wrote “Greensleeves”? Awesome! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/998 "2011-10-20T15:58:28Z")
As this thread approaches the 1,000-post mark, I’ve got to say it’s a shame that these amateurs thought they could put together a worthwhile protest. It’s obviously gone nowhere, made a laughingstock of liberals, and improbably gotten new sympathy for the banksters. They clearly should have just stayed home until they had a better idea of what they wanted, and how to go about protesting properly. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/999 "2011-10-20T17:34:16Z")
The occupations are giving a face to the people who have been looted by bankers . It also tells the bankers and hopefully the politicians will get the message, that we know who caused the financial meltdown, profited off it and continue to profit off it. It boils down to whether the people can create doubt about the reelections of politicians who sign on to the continuing theft by bankers. It may light a fire under Obama’s judicial dept. to get prosecutions going. It is a lobbying effort by the people . ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1000 "2011-10-21T10:50:48Z")
The thread has about 1,000 posts and 24,000 views. Kinda like OWS- just enough protesters and lots of interest. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851.md?page=49) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851.md?page=51)