# \#OccupyWallStreet **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 19, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851 "2011-09-19T18:27:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1281 "2011-10-27T17:19:09Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > I have to say that I think calling a gay man “princess” is more than a little offensive. > > While I don’t think JJ is accurate in his assessment of the hostility he thinks Republicans have for him, the fact is that violence again stays is real, as is the bullying. In sure he and his friends have knowledge of both firsthand, and I’m sure that it is the kind of thing that you take seriously and that sticks with you. > > I think his reaction is disproportionate and aimed poorly, but Ido 't doubt the environmentand circumstances that spawned it. But that’s not the issue. Heck I’d agree with your general assessment. But when someone jumps from there to the lines of “Republicans are evil and want to kill gays”, that’s a different kettle of fish. As far as princess, when someone, gay or straight, starts acting like some drama queen on steroids and breaks with reality, they’ve earned both descriptors. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1282 "2011-10-27T17:37:07Z")
Let me put this to you plainly. If you can substantiate your claim of “sexual aggression”, do so. Otherwise, have the good grace to slink away like the lying sack of shit that you are. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1283 "2011-10-27T17:47:02Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Meh. No more than I expect from **Shodan**. And, to be fair, he may have been reacting to my sarcastic “dear”. Water, duck’s back. Haters gonna hate. This is why I don’t take complaints about me signing my posts very seriously. My name is right there, and I sign my posts, and still the intellectually challenged can’t see who wrote what. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1284 "2011-10-27T17:50:39Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > You got me they’re! Death by the most evil means their is. Rightly deserved. Holy fuck. It’s “there” in both (all 3, if you count the original quote) cases. How you manage to fuck up something so simple so often is baffling. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1285 "2011-10-27T17:51:56Z")
Didn’t happen to notice any whooshing sounds recently, have you? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1286 "2011-10-27T17:53:32Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Let me put this to you plainly. If you can substantiate your claim of “sexual aggression”, do so. Otherwise, have the good grace to slink away like the lying sack of shit that you are. [http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/211304/45/Cleveland-Rape-alleged-at-Occupy-Cleveland](http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/211304/45/Cleveland-Rape-alleged-at-Occupy-Cleveland) [http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Stamford-Man-Accused-of-Groping-Women-at-Occupy-Wall-Street-131539378.html](http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Stamford-Man-Accused-of-Groping-Women-at-Occupy-Wall-Street-131539378.html) [http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Police-Seattle-public-masturbator-arrested-2224403.php](http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Police-Seattle-public-masturbator-arrested-2224403.php) > **[CBS Texas - Breaking Local News, First Alert Weather & I-Team Investigations](https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/)** > > Latest breaking news from CBS11 KTVT-TV | KTXA-TV. [http://www.verumserum.com/?p=31296](http://www.verumserum.com/?p=31296) But, no, there’s no sexual aggression. That’s why some of the groups are telling people to not report the non-existent incidents to the police: [http://biggovernment.com/dhunter/2011/10/18/occupybaltimore-discourages-sexual-assault-victims-from-contacting-police-offers-counseling-for-perpetrators/](http://biggovernment.com/dhunter/2011/10/18/occupybaltimore-discourages-sexual-assault-victims-from-contacting-police-offers-counseling-for-perpetrators/) ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1287 "2011-10-27T17:55:12Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Didn’t happen to notice any whooshing sounds recently, have you? > > Regards, > Shodan Maybe I should have used a few smilies. Or some neon arrows. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1288 "2011-10-27T18:00:30Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > This is why I don’t take complaints about me signing my posts very seriously. > > My name is right there, and I sign my posts, and still the intellectually challenged can’t see who wrote what. > > Regards, > Shodan Well, to be fair, he’s like really, really, really, really upset. Can’t say I blame him…if I thought that a third of the country or so was trying to kill me, I think being all atizzy would effect my ability to think, too. That’s not to say that he might not also be intellectually challenged. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1289 "2011-10-27T18:07:08Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > This is why I don’t take complaints about me signing my posts very seriously. > > My name is right there, and I sign my posts, and still the intellectually challenged can’t see who wrote what. > > Regards, > Shodan Another momentous occasion! My apologies, **Shodan**. To tell the truth, I have no excuse for missing that. I didn’t even realize it until you posted that. Again, I apologize for mixing you up with **magellan**. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1290 "2011-10-27T18:20:52Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Didn’t happen to notice any whooshing sounds recently, have you? > > Regards, > Shodan Thank Christ. I was hoping that was the case. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1291 "2011-10-27T18:26:16Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > But, no, there’s no sexual aggression. That’s why some of the groups are telling people to not report the non-existent incidents to the police: > > [http://biggovernment.com/dhunter/2011/10/18/occupybaltimore-discourages-sexual-assault-victims-from-contacting-police-offers-counseling-for-perpetrators/](http://biggovernment.com/dhunter/2011/10/18/occupybaltimore-discourages-sexual-assault-victims-from-contacting-police-offers-counseling-for-perpetrators/) lol Breitbart ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1292 "2011-10-27T18:30:36Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Another momentous occasion! My apologies, **Shodan**. To tell the truth, I have no excuse for missing that. I didn’t even realize it until you posted that. Again, I apologize for mixing you up with **magellan**. I appreciate this. And for the record, I don’t think you are nearly as stupid as **gonzomax**. Of course, the same could be said about nearly all Dopers, most regular people, and many household appliances, but FWIW. Regards, magellan01 ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1293 "2011-10-27T18:32:17Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > lol Breitbart Glad I could make you laugh (never mind you ignored the other cites). Let’s try it again: Look over there, a door knob!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha… ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1294 "2011-10-27T18:35:38Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > [http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/211304/45/Cleveland-Rape-alleged-at-Occupy-Cleveland](http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/211304/45/Cleveland-Rape-alleged-at-Occupy-Cleveland) > > [Stamford Man Accused of Groping Women at Occupy Wall Street – NBC Connecticut](http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Stamford-Man-Accused-of-Groping-Women-at-Occupy-Wall-Street-131539378.html) > > [http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Police-Seattle-public-masturbator-arrested-2224403.php](http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Police-Seattle-public-masturbator-arrested-2224403.php) > > [CBS Texas - Breaking Local News, First Alert Weather & I-Team Investigations](http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/10/24/accusations-of-teen-runaway-sexual-activity-at-occupy-dallas/) > > [http://www.verumserum.com/?p=31296](http://www.verumserum.com/?p=31296) > > But, no, there’s no sexual aggression. That’s why some of the groups are telling people to not report the non-existent incidents to the police: > > [http://biggovernment.com/dhunter/2011/10/18/occupybaltimore-discourages-sexual-assault-victims-from-contacting-police-offers-counseling-for-perpetrators/](http://biggovernment.com/dhunter/2011/10/18/occupybaltimore-discourages-sexual-assault-victims-from-contacting-police-offers-counseling-for-perpetrators/) According to the RTFdipshit/Elucidator rule these aren’t actually cites. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1295 "2011-10-27T19:01:38Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > … How you manage to fuck up something so simple so often is baffling. > [@Democrat thuggery, Boston style.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-thuggery-boston-style/524797/93): > > … Through what non-rationale thinkiing process do I to score well enough on moderated IQ tests to qualify for clubs beyond Mensa? … He’s too smart to spell correctly! CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1296 "2011-10-27T19:19:00Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Glad I could make you laugh (never mind you ignored the other cites). Let’s try it again: Look over there, a door knob!!! > > Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha… Good one! 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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1297 "2011-10-27T19:41:28Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > According to the RTFdipshit/Elucidator rule these aren’t actually cites. They certainly qualify for Fox Gnaw’s somewhat generous definition of “source”. And the Blight Bart reference does contain a document to substantiate the claim that the OWS security committee is steadfastly opposed to rape, sexual harrassment and intimidation. The author finds this very suspicious, for reason that elude me. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1298 "2011-10-27T19:43:51Z")
Heard on the radio today that the Occupy losers in Richmond were squatting in the park, not paying any money for permits, etc. But when the Tea Party of Richmond held a rally there, they were forced to pay for permits, sanitation, etc. They are now asking for a refund (rightfully so, in my opinion). It’s widely known that the Tea Party events left their sites cleaner than when they got there. And of course, they weren’t provoking the cops by smashing cars, throwing bottles, splashing paint on them, etc. And yet many on this board would demonize them and idolize Team Entitled. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1299 "2011-10-27T19:48:26Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > Heard on the radio today that the Occupy losers in Richmond were squatting in the park, not paying any money for permits, etc. But when the Tea Party of Richmond held a rally there, they were forced to pay for permits, sanitation, etc. They are now asking for a refund (rightfully so, in my opinion). > > It’s widely known that the Tea Party events left their sites cleaner than when they got there. And of course, they weren’t provoking the cops by smashing cars, throwing bottles, splashing paint on them, etc. > > And yet many on this board would demonize them and idolize Team Entitled. The demonization is yours. can you possible be more slanted? I am sure you could find city workers who cleaned up after tea baggers that would deny that. I do not believe they left the areas cleaner that they were when they found them. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851/1300 "2011-10-27T19:52:08Z")
I’m not entirely sure what your argument is. People aren’t going to say, “Well, I think the tea party stands for some horrible things and has values opposed to my value system, but they’re very neat and good at cleaning the park, so I’m going to support them.” I think the people supporting the Occupy Wall Street movement aren’t saying “Well, we like the idea of poor sanitation and making a mess of the park”. They do so because they agree with OWS’s criticism of the current political and financial system. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851.md?page=64) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/occupywallstreet/596851.md?page=66)