# Ocean Marketing vs Penny arcade, seen this? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 29, 2011, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712 "2011-12-29T12:25:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/21 "2011-12-29T16:32:46Z")
[Update: _Ocean Marketing_ dropped.](http://www.1up.com/news/avenger-controller-rep-seeks-forgiveness) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Righteous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Dr.Righteous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Righteous)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/22 "2011-12-29T16:34:36Z")
To carry the story further, [here](http://kotaku.com/5871656/chastened-gaming-rep-paul-christoforo-responds-to-internet-infamy) is an interview with the PR rep. What a massive douche… he really doesn’t seem to get that whatever you think about a customer you don’t talk to them in such a manner. This is why websites like [notalwaysright.com](http://notalwaysright.com) exist, to blow off steam! Not that I think the customer was being nasty (from what I can see he wasn’t), I’m just saying that even if they are you don’t respond to them like that. And yes, people trying to get at his wife and saying stuff about his kid are douches as well, but that’s the internet for you. People often say stuff online they’d never say in person because they feel safe behind their keyboards and screens. And for the record, if I ever met him I would tell him to his face he behaved like a ass, and furthermore I’m peeved that he is perpetuating the stereotype that all marketing and pr people are like this. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/23 "2011-12-29T16:35:07Z")
Yeah, he kinda misapplies the 'the most important part is who you know". Apparently it’s even more important who _you_ are. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/24 "2011-12-29T16:45:08Z")
Threats and messages to his family are unfair, but otherwise, this guy deserved what he got. He was unhelpful, abusive, rude, and tried to be a big shot. And this still probably wouldn’t have happened if he hadn’t topped all that by pulling the “yeah, I’m being a dick, but what are you going to do about it?” card. Based on his comments to MSNBC, he _still_ thinks this is mostly everyone else’s fault. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/25 "2011-12-29T16:48:42Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Threats and messages to his family are unfair, but otherwise, this guy deserved what he got. He was unhelpful, abusive, rude, and tried to be a big shot. And this still probably wouldn’t have happened if he hadn’t topped all that by pulling the “yeah, I’m being a dick, but what are you going to do about it?” card. Based on his comments to MSNBC, he _still_ thinks this is mostly everyone else’s fault. Is there any evidence that threats to the sack of shit’s family were actually made? Seems to me that such would have been turned over to the police. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/26 "2011-12-29T16:51:18Z")
Guy looks and sounds exactly like the stereotypical Boston Masshole. How can one (really, very lovely) city be so chock full of insufferable douchebags? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/27 "2011-12-29T17:02:48Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Is there any evidence that threats to the sack of shit’s family were actually made? Not that I know of. If he’s being emailed by thousands of people (which is likely) I don’t have a problem believing that a few people have gone too far or just used this as a socially acceptable excuse to be horrible, since that’s fundamentally the same thing he was doing to Dave. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/28 "2011-12-29T17:11:58Z")
> [@sandra\_nz](#): > > This whole situation feels like a bunch of internet geeks who got bullied at school are now gleefully taking the opportunity to be the bullies themselves. And that’s not right. The guy from PA pretty much admitted straight-up that this is what it is, and that he’s just fine with that. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/29 "2011-12-29T17:42:39Z")
I think the essential difference is the ‘deservingness’ of it. This is the internet equivilent of the asshole driver getting pulled over by the State Trooper who is, just this once, right there to administer appropriate consequences. I’m sure, BTW, we all agree that threatening the douche or his family is out of bounds. Confronting him about his behavior, though, seems well within the white lines. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/30 "2011-12-29T18:41:46Z")
I love that you can tell this stuff on his website is plagiarized because it’s not misspelled. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Is there any evidence that threats to the sack of shit’s family were actually made? Seems to me that such would have been turned over to the police. I’ve got $20 that says at most his wife got a Twitter message about how her husband’s an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/31 "2011-12-29T19:08:00Z")
> [@Mycroft\_Holmes](#): > > I’m amazed by the fact that this guy (who seems borderline illiterate) even got this job. How many qualified marketing people are jobless, while this moron has clients? I came in here to say exactly this. You’d think that one advantage of the current job market would be that people who manage to get jobs are, y’know, _competent_ at whatever the job is. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/32 "2011-12-29T19:13:22Z")
The fact that he got the job kind of proves that whatever else he is, he _is_ also a qualified marketing person, if you think about it. ---
**Author:** ![Barking\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Barking\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barking_Dog)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/33 "2011-12-29T19:57:57Z")
> [@sandra\_nz](#): > > This whole situation feels like a bunch of internet geeks who got bullied at school are now gleefully taking the opportunity to be the bullies themselves. And that’s not right. To be fair, [QUOTE=Mike Krahulik] I have a real problem with bullies. I spent my childhood moving from school to school and I got made fun of everyplace I landed. I feel like Paul is a bully and maybe that’s why I have no sympathy here. Someday every bully meets and even bigger bully and maybe that’s me in this case. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/34 "2011-12-29T19:59:28Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The fact that he got the job kind of proves that whatever else he is, he _is_ also a qualified marketing person, if you think about it. Well I’d never heard of Ocean Marketing before, and likely never would have, but now I have so… “any press” right? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/35 "2011-12-29T20:09:20Z")
My favorite part of this - after the part where he doesn’t know who Mike Krahulik is despite bragging about his presence at Pax East - is how the dude’s first twitter handle was @OceanMarketting, and when he changed it in an attempt to duck all this, he picked @OceanStratagy. Also, don’t miss the part where Christoforo tries to impersonate a different marketer who used to work for NControl - only to accidentally out himself as a steroid user: > **[Cut Paul "@OceanMarketting @OceanStratagy" Christoforo a Break—He Might Just...](https://kotaku.com/cut-paul-oceanmarketting-oceanstratagy-christoforo-5871400)** > > It's been a heck of a day for Paul Christoforo, whose flippant email to a customer asking about his Avenger controller order has made Christoforo a walking memetic punchline. But maybe we should cut Christoforo a break for his overly aggressive... ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/36 "2011-12-29T20:11:58Z")
> [@sandra\_nz](#): > > Yes, the guy was a dick in that email chain. But did PA really need to make this public? They barred him from PAX, and they could have contacted the company and forwarded them the emails, which would probably have gotten him fired. Meh. So he quietly loses a single contract. Not really very satisfying. Really, an “A” grade dickhead like that deserves to be publicly humiliated and assured of _never being a point-of-contact with the public for any company, anywhere, ever again._ That guy should be earning minimum wage at Target - not out on the floor, but hidden away in the back with a ball-gag under a leather mask to protect people from gazing upon his terrible _backpfeifengesicht_. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/37 "2011-12-29T20:14:45Z")
Also also - the current PA comic on the situation: > **[Real Talk - Penny Arcade](https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/12/28/real-talk)** > > Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/38 "2011-12-29T20:20:59Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > This [YouTube parody](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqV9kx40RG0) of the situation is pretty funny. Ha, that’s hilarious. “I know the yellow power ranger and Richard Nixon”. Namedropping bragging prick got what he deserved. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/39 "2011-12-29T20:56:50Z")
“Are you guys going to be at NAMBLA this year?” ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ocean-marketing-vs-penny-arcade-seen-this/607712/40 "2011-12-29T21:55:29Z")
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