# Octomom update: She's Still a Piece of Crap

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 1, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525 "2011-07-01T16:52:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/41 "2011-07-01T22:01:54Z")

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Breeding is like war.

Its great fun practicing for it. Hell, everybody should do it and do it often. Good for mind, body and soul. Actually doing it should only occur when absolutely neccessary and only by people who know WTF they are doing.

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**Author:** ![lavenderviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lavenderviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lavenderviolet)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/42 "2011-07-01T22:14:56Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> She probably is a piece of crap, but she wore a “fight breedism” shirt for that publicity photo, so she has some tiny shred of sense somewhere.

Unfortunately, I think she’s only wearing that shirt because PETA pays her to wear their stuff. Seriously, I read somewhere that they had agreed to pay her to promote spaying/neutering.

> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Why don’t the pro-life groups adopt her as their poster child and give her beaucoup bucks to state how wonderful having babies is and how proud she is that she didn’t destroy any of her children (frozen embryos). Indeed, they should pay for her to have more!!

Because it is possible to believe that a child’s life has value even if you disagree with the circumstances under which they were conceived.  
I don’t see anyone here who thinks the kids ought to be killed **now** just because having them was a mistake and Nadya doesn’t want them anymore - the only difference is that a pro-lifer believes that our normal rules against killing should apply from an earlier age.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/43 "2011-07-01T22:22:02Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> - ok, feet in the air too, for good measure \*

Legs in the air? I’m gonna need to see your license, please…

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/44 "2011-07-01T22:27:29Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> Let’s just hope that she doesn’t decide that she needs the other 29 implanted.

Before I was through reading the OP, I was thinking “She’ll decide she needs more kids.”  
Best wishes,  
hh

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/45 "2011-07-01T22:28:36Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> She probably is a piece of crap, but she wore a “fight breedism” shirt for that publicity photo, so she has some tiny shred of sense somewhere.

Do you really believe she understands what the shirt even says, let alone means??  
Best wishes,  
hh

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/46 "2011-07-02T01:36:35Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Secondly, there are people other than spouses who will help out with kids for free.
> 
> Unmarried is not the problem here.

If you’re thinking the grandparents are pitching in, I believe they wrote off their freak daughter before she had her last frankenlitter.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/47 "2011-07-02T01:41:10Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> Do you actually have to _date_ to have sex?

Apparently if you’re Nadya Suleman you don’t require sex to have kids.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/48 "2011-07-02T01:52:26Z")

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Oh, \*\*devilsknew \*\*is going to be \*so \*mad at you.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/49 "2011-07-02T02:16:42Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> Oh, whew. I thought this was going to turn into another Cilene Dionne thing and I don’t think we can apologize again.

Quoi?

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/50 "2011-07-02T02:19:20Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> Legs in the air? I’m gonna need to see your license, please…

I’m just practicing, I swear!

The Wiki article on her says she was married for a few years, but they weren’t able to have kids. She was desperate to have them but her then-husband didn’t want to do IVF.

So… she managed to get a husband without dating? I guess she might mean someone introduced them and they hit it off, that’s a little different than the “going out to meet someone” type of dating.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/51 "2011-07-02T02:26:06Z")

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Medically, how are the eight-some doing? Are they at least physically OK?

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**Author:** ![humanafterall](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/humanafterall/32/19654_2.png) [@humanafterall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/humanafterall)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/52 "2011-07-02T02:28:43Z")

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A conversation with that woman is something that I would make into a rage comic. In fact, this story has given me a wonderful idea for a rage comic, thank you!.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/53 "2011-07-02T02:30:14Z")

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The sad thing is that even if they’re adopted out, I don’t think you could split up the older set (six?) at this age. Where are you going to find someone willing to take on six kids at once?

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**Author:** ![humanafterall](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/humanafterall/32/19654_2.png) [@humanafterall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/humanafterall)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/54 "2011-07-02T02:38:24Z")

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I would make a face that looks something like David Silverman (President of American Atheists) in his interview with Bill O’Reilly. You know the one. It became a Reddit meme?

[Here’s the link](http://randomoverload.com/memebase-wtf-guy-totally-looks-like-david-silverman-on-o%E2%80%99reilly)

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/55 "2011-07-02T02:50:56Z")

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> [@lorene](#):
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> And we can blame you for [Caillou](http://pbskids.org/caillou/).
> 
> **Link has sound.**

But if not for Caillou, my favorite non-X-Files [fanfic](http://www.fanfiction.net/s/532666/1/Bob_The_Newest_X_Man) ever wouldn’t exist.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/56 "2011-07-02T03:39:02Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> If only there would have been some way to foresee that an unemployed single-mother of 6 was going to find that having 8 more children, all at one time, wasn’t a great idea…

Given that other folks who have had litters have been given houses, TV shows, etc I can see how dingle brain here thought she wouldn’t be stuck raising all these kids on her own, without money.

> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Why would an unmarried woman with 6 children be given fertility drugs?

Because, unfortunately, it is her right to have as many babies as she wants.

> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Why don’t the pro-life groups adopt her as their poster child and give her beaucoup bucks to state how wonderful having babies is and how proud she is that she didn’t destroy any of her children (frozen embryos). Indeed, they should pay for her to have more!!

Because the pro-life groups don’t care about the fetuses once they are born!

> [@YoSaffBridge](#):
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> If she was unemployed, where did she get the money for IVF? Not just for the eight babies, but the first six?  
> Is that covered under Medicaid?

I think she was employed at the time - she had Kaiser insurance so unless she was paying for her own coverage, she must have had a job at the time of the IVF.

> [@Sailboat](#):
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> She probably is a piece of crap, but she wore a “fight breedism” shirt for that publicity photo, so she has some tiny shred of sense somewhere.

Wearing that shirt means she is as stupid about dogs and cats as she is about children. It also means she is just a shill for PETA.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/57 "2011-07-02T03:42:35Z")

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> [@lavenderviolet](#):
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> Unfortunately, I think she’s only wearing that shirt because PETA pays her to wear their stuff. Seriously, I read somewhere that they had agreed to pay her to promote spaying/neutering.\<snip\>

I’m not sure if that’s funny, ironic, or incredibly stupid.

> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> Before I was through reading the OP, I was thinking “She’ll decide she needs more kids.”  
> Best wishes,  
> hh

More kids will solve everything! It always does!

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/58 "2011-07-02T05:14:37Z")

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This thread has given me my latest billion dollar idea – The Train Wreck Channel for basic cable. We give poor wretches like the Octomom reality shows as a form of welfare. Her, the balloon boy family, some of those Real Housewives, etc. We can all tune one of them in any time to remind ourselves that at least we don’t suck as much as them.

And we get Maury and Geraldo and Jerry to have a weekly roundtable about… eh, does it really matter? Basically to judge them, insult them, and think up new ways to humiliate them in exchange for small cash prizes.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/59 "2011-07-02T05:47:10Z")

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> [@J-P\_L](#):
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> Hey, watch it.
> 
> You can blame us for Paul Bernado, you can blame us for Colonel Russel Williams, but I draw the line at this nutcase.

“But Mr Minister, this isn’t the first troublesome thing to come out of Canada. Let us not forget Bryan Adams.”  
“Now now, the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions!”

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/60 "2011-07-02T12:14:44Z")

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> [@J-P\_L](#):
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> Hey, watch it.
> 
> You can blame us for Paul Bernado, you can blame us for Colonel Russel Williams, but I draw the line at this nutcase.

And what about Brian Adams?

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