# Octomom update: She's Still a Piece of Crap **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 1, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525 "2011-07-01T16:52:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/81 "2011-07-03T07:58:57Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Ewwwwww. From what I understand, in vitro fertilization increases the chance for duplication like that. Yet another reason you shouldn’t do so many at once. EDIT: I sure had a lot of database troubles submitting that post. So I’d doublecheck my assumption if I were you. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/82 "2011-07-03T08:50:17Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > And we can blame you for [Caillou](http://pbskids.org/caillou/). > > **Link has sound.** Blame? Are you kidding me? It’s great for getting the Kidlette to stand still while you dress her! God bless Canada! (And this is coming from the aunt who thinks you shouldn’t use the tv as a babysitter and who has had to explain to both nephews that DVDs aren’t default car equipment) ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/83 "2011-07-03T11:53:03Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > That article about her doctor contains some disturbing information. **The reports previously were that she had 6 remaining embryos** which were all implanted because she did not want to waste them and that two of them produced twins. That article indicates that \*\*not only did the doctor implant 12 embryos (!) but she still has 29 left \*\*so that it wasn’t a case of her not wanting embryos destroyed. Let’s just hope that she doesn’t decide that she needs the other 29 implanted. I just saw where the confusion came in. No, it was 12 embryos. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/84 "2011-07-03T13:06:14Z")
Was he laughing maniacally and cackling “I’ll show them! I’ll show them ALL!!” when he performed the procedure? Because that would explain a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/85 "2011-07-03T15:22:20Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Was he laughing maniacally and cackling “I’ll show them! I’ll show them ALL!!” when he performed the procedure? Because that would explain a lot. Ah, it FINALLY starts to makes some sense! ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/86 "2011-07-03T16:22:42Z")
What would have happened if all 12 embryos had “taken”? ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/87 "2011-07-03T17:43:49Z")
She would have gotten her reality show, and everyone would be debating her new hairstyle instead of her ranking in hell. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/88 "2011-07-03T18:16:06Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > What would have happened if all 12 embryos had “taken”? None of them would have survived. Possibly not even mom, depending on how catastrophic the resulting miscarriage was. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/89 "2011-07-03T22:06:34Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Apparently if you’re Nadya Suleman you don’t require sex to have kids. If one has her eggs extracted, fertilized in a petri dish, then implanted into her womb… then yes, it’s theoretically possible to have 14 kids without having sex. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/90 "2011-07-03T23:23:01Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Blame? Are you kidding me? [Caillou]'s great for getting the Kidlette to stand still while you dress her! God bless Canada! My daughter loves _Caillou_ - but it’s very disorienting to hear him in English. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2011, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/91 "2011-07-04T03:39:31Z")
> [@Larry\_Mudd](#): > > My daughter loves _Caillou_ - but it’s very disorienting to hear him in English. It works with the Kidlette in Spanish, Basque, Catalan and French, she doesn’t even seem to be surprised by the existence of multiple languages yet; the Kidlet is now old enough (5) to find it strange in Catalan, but as his father pointed out, “what? You understand it a lot better like that than in Basque, don’t you?”. I don’t think they’ve run into it in any other languages yet 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/92 "2011-07-04T04:58:56Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > AIUI, twelve were implanted, of which six took. Then two of those six split into two separate embryos, boosting the total to eight. I don’t think there is any evidence that any split. If two had split, she would have two sets of identical twins, which it does not appear that she does. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/93 "2011-07-04T23:22:24Z")
Was she starting a family or starting a herd? Frankly, the doctor who did this ought to be liable. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/94 "2011-07-05T03:45:07Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Was she starting a family or starting a herd? > Frankly, the doctor who did this ought to be liable. Did you even bother reading the thread? The doctor lost his license. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![YaraMateo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/58f4c7/32.png) [@YaraMateo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YaraMateo)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/95 "2011-07-05T04:09:19Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > If you’re thinking the grandparents are pitching in, I believe they wrote off their freak daughter before she had her last frankenlitter. I’m glad they cut her off. I was just thinking she probably thought her two elderly parents were going to help her raise this bunch. Also, didn’t she claim she was married and divorced? I could swear she claimed she had an ex and then swore he wasn’t the dad of the kids. He tried to chime in her fame. Or the guy was at least an ex booty call. So, how is she getting at she never had dates? I think she’s just insane. Oprah should just adopt them all and make a show about it. ---
**Author:** ![YaraMateo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/58f4c7/32.png) [@YaraMateo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YaraMateo)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/96 "2011-07-05T04:10:42Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Was she starting a family or starting a herd? > Frankly, the doctor who did this ought to be liable. Why should he be liable? She asked for it. He didn’t like do it without her knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/97 "2011-07-05T04:12:21Z")
> [@YaraMateo](#): > > Why should he be liable? She asked for it. He didn’t like do it without her knowledge. I think (and I’m not at all sure about this) that doctors have a professional responsibility to not just do whatever a patient wants, but to give them good, proper care. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/98 "2011-07-05T05:24:17Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Did you even bother reading the thread? The doctor lost his license. :rolleyes: That doesn’t seem to be enough - perhaps he should also adopt one or six of them, since he is sort of in a way their father. ---
**Author:** ![YaraMateo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/58f4c7/32.png) [@YaraMateo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YaraMateo)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/99 "2011-07-05T05:47:49Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I think (and I’m not at all sure about this) that doctors have a professional responsibility to not just do whatever a patient wants, but to give them good, proper care. It was lose lose for him. He did it and people are giving him shit. If he didn’t do it, she probably would have sued him like she did her former job. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525/100 "2011-07-05T22:49:07Z")
> [@YaraMateo](#): > > It was lose lose for him. He did it and people are giving him shit. If he didn’t do it, she probably would have sued him like she did her former job. Except she’d be thrown out of court. By doing what he did, he was violating the Hippocratic Oath – “first, do no harm”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octomom-update-shes-still-a-piece-of-crap/587525.md?page=6)