# Octopus here's your own thread to shit all over **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550 "2018-06-06T15:40:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/222 "2018-06-08T22:25:26Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > You _claim_ to want to debate. > You claim that the pit isn’t a place for debate. > You claim that insulting people is okay in the pit (if you’re the one doing it) > You claim that insulting people is a horrible offense worthy of taking massive dumps anywhere (if anybody does it to you). > > You’re no victim, and you’re also intellectually dishonest (specifically, blatantly hypocritical). > > What you don’t know can’t hurt you. Also, are you operating under the _completely absurd_ delusion that people insult you randomly for no reason when you’re not there? Sorry sucker, you’re not that important. When I don’t see your posts as a helpful reminder I _don’t even remember you exist_. Those are all your opinions and you are perfectly entitled to them.🙂 But you’re factually incorrect in saying that not being present in the Pit or a snark forum is any way related to being a target for those that dwell there. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/223 "2018-06-08T22:27:27Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Those are all your opinions and you are perfectly entitled to them.🙂 I accept your concession that I am objectively correct in my assessment of your intellectually dishonest deliberate unjustified trolling. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/224 "2018-06-08T22:29:49Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > But you’re factually incorrect in saying that not being present in the Pit or a snark forum is any way related to being a target for those that dwell there. I never said you wouldn’t get pitted. I said it _wouldn’t matter_. What you don’t know doesn’t hurt you. There are actually several unpopular posters around here that cruise on happily never entering the pit. You might consider following their lead - _particularly_ if you have some kind of goddamn fucking problem with swearing and insults, you troll. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/225 "2018-06-08T22:32:29Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > I accept your concession that I am objectively correct in my assessment of your intellectually dishonest deliberate unjustified trolling. You get a “I can’t read and make up lies” stamp. If you are like this in real life I’m not surprised the romance is non-existent. Try to be a better begbert2. Anyways, if you are “objectively” correct with your lie hit the report button and Miller will get rid of me. If not, please, don’t try to appear reasonable and solution seeking when you are a snake and part of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/226 "2018-06-08T22:39:14Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You get a “I can’t read and make up lies” stamp. > > If you are like this in real life I’m not surprised the romance is non-existent. Try to be a better begbert2. > > Anyways, if you are “objectively” correct with your lie hit the report button and Miller will get rid of me. If not, please, don’t try to appear reasonable and solution seeking when you are a snake and part of the problem. If you think I’m lying, defend yourself. The post you called “opinions” was entirely full of _objective facts_ with only one exception - my opinion that you’re utterly forgettable when we don’t actually _see_ you posting like a shit-for-brained third grader. (To determine the truth of that we’d have to make a poll or something.) But the other stuff, the assembly of your contradicting claims that blow away your supposed reasons for diving into the pit and stirring shit? Cold hard facts, baby. If you think they can be assembled in a way that doesn’t spell T-R-O-L-L, feel free to do so! ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/227 "2018-06-08T22:42:57Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > If you think I’m lying, defend yourself. The post you called “opinions” was entirely full of _objective facts_ with only one exception - my opinion that you’re utterly forgettable when we don’t actually _see_ you posting like a shit-for-brained third grader. (To determine the truth of that we’d have to make a poll or something.) > > But the other stuff, the assembly of your contradicting claims that blow away your supposed reasons for diving into the pit and stirring shit? Cold hard facts, baby. If you think they can be assembled in a way that doesn’t spell T-R-O-L-L, feel free to do so! I don’t speak Parseltongue. Here’s a “Hiss!” Stamp. Report my posts if you are sure of your convictions. Otherwise, they are nothing more than insincere accusations designed to trigger a response. Snake. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/228 "2018-06-08T22:45:21Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I don’t speak Parseltongue. Here’s a “Hiss!” Stamp. > > Report my posts if you are sure of your convictions. Otherwise, they are nothing more than insincere accusations designed to trigger a response. > > Snake. So one post after you accuse _me_ of not being able to read… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/229 "2018-06-08T22:46:28Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I have a sense of restraint. I must lack the necessary sense to discern this. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/230 "2018-06-08T22:49:46Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > {…} hit the report button and Miller will get rid of me. {…} Umm, that’s never been how it works. Let me 'splain; When we ask if we can keep the troll, even promising to feed and walk it, then Miller takes the troll out back behind the Barn [DEL][COLOR=“Black”]House[/DEL][/COLOR] and _does things_ to it. :eek: When we beg for a troll to be removed it gets to stay . . . until we’ve given it or it’s collected enough rope to hang itself with of course. Please Miller can we keep this one??? PLEASE!!! CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Teddie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@Teddie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teddie)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/231 "2018-06-08T22:50:50Z")
I have no sense of restraint octopus so all I have to say is You Are A Cunt. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/232 "2018-06-08T22:56:51Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I don’t speak Parseltongue. Here’s a “Hiss!” Stamp. > > Report my posts if you are sure of your convictions. Otherwise, they are nothing more than insincere accusations designed to trigger a response. > > Snake. Oh, and I also I should compliment you on your _original_ approach to avoiding having to make a defense of yourself that’s sensible or coherent. Sure, it’s basically sticking your fingers in your ears, squinching your eyes shut, and yelling “la la la I can’t hear you!”, but framing it in the context of a literary/cinematic reference almost borderlines clever since were just riffing on another movie (Holy Grail). I mean, it _wasn’t_ clever, but it was borderline - and in any case, it was indeed original. Still doesn’t mean you get out of having to either explain yourself or accept your troll label, though. Or should I say troll “stamp”, to match that elementary-school jargon you’ve been throwing around? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/233 "2018-06-08T23:00:53Z")
> [@Teddie](#): > > I have no sense of restraint octopus so all I have to say is You Are A Cunt. > That is all. Appropriate weight applied for 19th post in 4 years. ---
**Author:** ![Teddie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@Teddie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teddie)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/234 "2018-06-08T23:03:35Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Appropriate weight applied for 19th post in 4 years. I’m a woman of few words what can I say? The guy is a total prick. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/235 "2018-06-08T23:07:00Z")
Speak when it’s important, I respect it. I can’t master it, but I respect it. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/236 "2018-06-08T23:08:44Z")
> [@Teddie](#): > > I have no sense of restraint octopus so all I have to say is You Are A Cunt. > That is all. You get a “potty mouth” ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/237 "2018-06-08T23:13:28Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > Oh, and I also I should compliment you on your _original_ approach to avoiding having to make a defense of yourself that’s sensible or coherent. Sure, it’s basically sticking your fingers in your ears, squinching your eyes shut, and yelling “la la la I can’t hear you!”, but framing it in the context of a literary/cinematic reference almost borderlines clever since were just riffing on another movie (Holy Grail). > > I mean, it _wasn’t_ clever, but it was borderline - and in any case, it was indeed original. > > Still doesn’t mean you get out of having to either explain yourself or accept your troll label, though. Or should I say troll “stamp”, to match that elementary-school jargon you’ve been throwing around? That’s not how it works. That not how any of this works. _You_ and whatever other fossils come slithering out of lurkerdom don’t get to define the rules. You all can knowingly flout them since Ed turns a blind eye to the Pit. But you don’t define the rules. I’m not your monkey and I’ll respond as I wish. ---
**Author:** ![Teddie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@Teddie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teddie)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/238 "2018-06-08T23:15:19Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Speak when it’s important, I respect it. I can’t master it, but I respect it. As I said, a woman of few words. The ladies here are doing a spectacular job of trying to out the misogynistic vibe this board portrays. > [@octopus](#): > > You get a “potty mouth” You can shove your bingo card where the sun doesn’t shine. And you’re still a prick btw. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/239 "2018-06-08T23:23:33Z")
You only get one particular stamp. You got to vary things up, sweetie. ---
**Author:** ![Teddie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@Teddie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teddie)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/240 "2018-06-08T23:26:48Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You only get one particular stamp. You got to vary things up, sweetie. Cheers love I’ll treasure it with all my heart ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/241 "2018-06-08T23:27:25Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > That’s not how it works. That not how any of this works. _You_ and whatever other fossils come slithering out of lurkerdom don’t get to define the rules. You all can knowingly flout them since Ed turns a blind eye to the Pit. But you don’t define the rules. I’m not your monkey and I’ll respond as I wish. On the subject of people who have problems with the english language, by typing “other” there you just called _me_ a lurker. _Me.__ **Me.** _ It’s among the funniest things you’ve said or done, possibly in your entire life. (You also called me a fossil, which to people who know the language implies that you think I’m old, presumably relative to yourself. That makes me seriously wonder how old you are - _are_ you in elementary school? When I note that you insult like a third grader, is that the actual reason?) As for the rules, welcome to the internet! It’s warm here! (Due to all the flaming, obviously.) On the internet nobody ever openly admits they’re wrong, especially fools who are _usually_ wrong. But they don’t have to, because humanity has noticed some trends. Specifically, when a person stops rebutting and _starts_ squirming like a little weasel, as you have done? That’s internet speak for “I know I’m wrong and I’m loath to admit it.” You could type those very words with bold, italics, allcaps, and a non-functional blink tag and not broadcast them louder. I’ve been known to say that nobody can really win an argument on the internet except trolls (who win by their own twisted rules), but damn, man, by any objective measure you’ve _lost_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550.md?page=13)