# Octopus here's your own thread to shit all over **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550 "2018-06-06T15:40:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/342 "2018-08-21T04:08:57Z")
I actually know some stuff that’s substantive. He is for a guaranteed basic income–unless I’m getting him mixed up with another conservative poster who surprised me. My problem is that he’s stopped being a substantive poster. He’s just freaking out and claiming he’s being bullied any time someone has a problem with what he posted. Or freaking out because people are teasing him for his own indefensible position that he has repeated over and over. Or pulling the conservative pity party argument that has never worked. Or trying to get the Pit removed or whining about “potty mouths.” Here’s an idea: take a break from doing that stuff. I’m not saying “let the bullies win.” I’m saying that you can just not do it for a while. There will be some inertia, but just see what happens. See if this is about bullying or about your own responses. Because, like I said, your responses in this thread pre-resurrection did nothing but make me think you were just wanting an excuse to attack people for your own amusement. Of course I’m not going to treat someone like that very well. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/343 "2018-08-21T04:24:37Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Where have I attacked you in this thread? > > I asked someone, anyone (even you perhaps?) to point out some actual substantive contributions to this board. Like sharing ideas, asking for input, maybe even having a debate, heaven forbid. > > But still, nothing. > > I’m patient though… Are you serious? You want me to search by my user name and ignore the Pit stuff and find a contribution to a thread? Sure… Give me a second and I’ll post one. Just for you. > [@Yet more Catholic priests are rapists? Oh. Say it ain't so.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yet-more-catholic-priests-are-rapists-oh-say-it-aint-so/819624/101): > > It was a close call. Wishing someone to burn in hell! And all the profanity!?! And the eye socket violation? Yeah I needed my couch. > > You know, or maybe you don’t, but I try to stay out of the child rape threads. Especially when it’s systemic and ongoing. What I don’t understand is who in the world ever thinks it’s a good idea to allow an institution to investigate itself? From the priest raping kids thread. Notice a bit of self deprecation to start my post after someone had teased me before I even entered the thread. I’m good natured so I went with the joke. Then I offered my opinion that when serious crimes like child rape (obviously implied by let’s see, the subject of the thread) that it might not be a good idea to let the institution that is responsible for the abuse and cover up to continue to handle the issue in-house. Especially not in a modern nation-state with a functioning, albeit far from perfect, law enforcement and judicial system. Of course the dishonest attacks occur immediately after. Though Miller, to his credit, offered a decent and honest interpretation of my post that frankly didn’t require much exposition if one reads without bias. Let’s see maybe I’ll continue to do your homework and post one more. Here’s me mildly debating whether or not Prince is a genius with drad dog. > [@Why is Prince considered to be a genius?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-is-prince-considered-to-be-a-genius/752896/337): > > Your idea of genius might be incongruent with its definition. Again, no one is saying Prince is unrivaled. But in the music field he’s in the top 1%. That’s basically what genius is in intellect. I don’t see why other fields couldn’t use the same percentiles to rank ability. Who can argue with that? Look, most of posts are on contentious issues. I admit that. Contentious issues can get heated, I under that. I don’t have problems with disagreements. I have problems with the dishonest and uncivil tactics. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/344 "2018-08-21T04:37:29Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I actually know some stuff that’s substantive. He is for a guaranteed basic income–unless I’m getting him mixed up with another conservative poster who surprised me. Yeah I am at least for now. I am thinking we are moving to a world where human labor is being decoupled from highly valuable manufacturing. So, I’m open to new forms of wealth distribution. I think we have more of a demand problem and less of a supply problem and I think basic income would help the economy grow while boosting the general standard of living. I do worry about population growth, rate of consumption growth, and environmental impact and I’m not sure if 2nd or 3rd order effects of basic income would be good or horrendous. > [@](#): > > My problem is that he’s stopped being a substantive poster. He’s just freaking out and claiming he’s being bullied any time someone has a problem with what he posted. Or freaking out because people are teasing him for his own indefensible position that he has repeated over and over. Or pulling the conservative pity party argument that has never worked. Or trying to get the Pit removed or whining about “potty mouths.” > > Here’s an idea: take a break from doing that stuff. I’m not saying “let the bullies win.” I’m saying that you can just not do it for a while. There will be some inertia, but just see what happens. See if this is about bullying or about your own responses. Perhaps you are right. Maybe things would cool off. Maybe those who _enjoy_ pitting people will find an easier target and succeed at driving them off. I cracked a few jokes at your expense in the past when you poked at me but then I realized you are a chronic target of the same miserable bunch and I definitely don’t want to be associated with them. About the Pit being removed? If the goal is to clean up the environment with regards to people feeling comfortable or threatened so that board retention is higher and board recruitment is actually a net positive don’t you think getting rid of the most hostile sub forum should be on the table. Look at the endless handwringing over comparing Betty Rubble or Wilma Flintstone in a thread. Yet, we have members who flounced because they couldn’t call posters a “cunt.” Explain that dichotomy. The good thing about you BigT, even though we don’t see eye to eye on a lot of issues, is you have the courage to be who you are and not allow these people to force you to change. That’s hard. > [@](#): > > Because, like I said, your responses in this thread pre-resurrection did nothing but make me think you were just wanting an excuse to attack people for your own amusement. Of course I’m not going to treat someone like that very well. With regards to that. We clash ideologically. Therefore, you have a certain bias when you see fight. Sunny Daze started this thread and a few of the GB clowns and some random people started taking shots. I decided I wasn’t going to be a passive punching bag or act like a chronically battered wife. I was going to fight back. I fought back, the thread died. Some fool resurrected it. I’ll tell you this though. Whatever the goal was they aren’t going to accomplish it. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/345 "2018-08-21T05:33:11Z")
**octopus** , the examples you provided for me upthread aren’t exactly what I was hoping for. Sure, you posted in a couple of threads and set out your position, but Prince being a genius and the RCC investigating their own over the last however many years are hardly what I would call an insight into ‘What Makes octopus Tick’. People don’t remember you for any of those. I wonder why that might be? When you get a multi-page Pit thread with you as the ‘star’ maybe it’s you and not them matey. Maybe you could…perhaps you might try…how about… Nah, I give up. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/346 "2018-08-21T05:46:25Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > **octopus** , the examples you provided for me upthread aren’t exactly what I was hoping for. Sure, you posted in a couple of threads and set out your position, but Prince being a genius and the RCC investigating their own over the last however many years are hardly what I would call an insight into ‘What Makes octopus Tick’. People don’t remember you for any of those. I wonder why that might be? > > When you get a multi-page Pit thread with you as the ‘star’ maybe it’s you and not them matey. > > Maybe you could…perhaps you might try…how about… > > Nah, I give up. Just the two of us here! What you want to chat about? ---
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/347 "2018-08-21T05:53:03Z")
Only a few days earlier the guy who bumped this thread was all “We prod you because it amuses us.” ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/348 "2018-08-21T06:22:31Z")
Why would you hang out in a place that you obviously don’t enjoy? What do you get from being ‘so-called’ bullied? I think I would move on. Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/349 "2018-08-21T06:32:11Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Why would you hang out in a place that you obviously don’t enjoy? What do you get from being ‘so-called’ bullied? I think I would move on. Just saying. If we were to all stop ‘bullying’ him, he would move on. Masochist: Hit me, HIT me. Sadist: No. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/350 "2018-08-21T06:34:08Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Why would you hang out in a place that you obviously don’t enjoy? What do you get from being ‘so-called’ bullied? I think I would move on. Just saying. That’s a fair question. If you are talking about the pit specifically it’s as I’ve already said. If you are talking about the forums in general why shouldn’t I stick around and converse in threads in which I am provided something of value? There are many threads I read for information and don’t have anything useful to add. So I don’t post. There are a few in which I disagree with a concept and I want to see if I can be convinced why I am wrong. I’ve been wrong in a few threads, at the very least. And in several other threads I have left the threads to reconsider my position. I see no value in going to a site which is an echo chamber and offers me no new ideas or new ways of looking at things. One of these days I may even learn to use a semi colon. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/351 "2018-08-21T07:13:09Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > That’s a fair question. If you are talking about the pit specifically it’s as I’ve already said. > > If you are talking about the forums in general why shouldn’t I stick around and converse in threads in which I am provided something of value? There are many threads I read for information and don’t have anything useful to add. So I don’t post. There are a few in which I disagree with a concept and I want to see if I can be convinced why I am wrong. > > I’ve been wrong in a few threads, at the very least. And in several other threads I have left the threads to reconsider my position. I see no value in going to a site which is an echo chamber and offers me no new ideas or new ways of looking at things. > > One of these days I may even learn to use a semi colon. I have no idea what’s come before, octopus, but I believe you have the same right as anyone else to post in the threads of your choice. Nobody “owns” this forum, and anyone is free to disagree with you or ignore you if they don’t like what you say. Having said that, if you post something ignorant, you may be getting what you deserve. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/352 "2019-01-15T06:37:41Z")
Actually there is someone who “owns” the thread as they own this board, do they give a shit, no, but they rightfully own it. Just ask the mods. And **octopus** is a trolling troll of a troll. His “potty mouth” proves it. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/353 "2019-01-15T06:45:30Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Actually there is someone who “owns” the thread as they own this board, do they give a shit, no, but they rightfully own it. Just ask the mods. > > And **octopus** is a trolling troll of a troll. > > His “potty mouth” proves it. The irony of that is his constant accusations of others having “potty mouth”. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/354 "2019-01-15T07:19:46Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Actually there is someone who “owns” the thread as they own this board, do they give a shit, no, but they rightfully own it. Just ask the mods. > > And **octopus** is a trolling troll of a troll. > > His “potty mouth” proves it. I’m living rent free in your head as Trump does in asashi’s. You got octopus gibberish syndrome. Sad! Don’t you think your time would be more productively spent expressing faux socially enlightened concern in order to build board rapport? Surely, someone somewhere on this here internet is commenting on a female member of this species appearance in a non hive-mind approved way. Sic ‘em! > [@Monty](#): > > The irony of that is his constant accusations of others having “potty mouth”. Simple Monty! They’re letting you use electronic devices again? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/355 "2019-01-15T09:05:56Z")
And the fool still doesn’t understand what an ignore list is! ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/356 "2019-01-19T14:13:08Z")
> [@Did Pelosi just un-invite Trump from the State of the Union?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/208): > > Lovely demographic for the dims to covet so highly. > [@Did Pelosi just un-invite Trump from the State of the Union?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/258): > > I personally think that you do your sentence you should have most if not all rights and privileges restored. I also am not naive enough to think that that does not disproportionately help one party. > [@Did Pelosi just un-invite Trump from the State of the Union?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/297): > > Since all that is off topic I’ll send you a pm. Imagine making these three posts. Imagine _thinking_ like that about people - “Yeah, sure, this person drove without a license 30 years ago and yeah, I _technically_ support people voting, but _obviously_ anyone who thinks he should get the right to vote back is just awful.” Admitting that _by your own principles_, this is the right thing to do, and yet you still insist on giving people shit about it. What a fucking terrible human being. Dude, get the fuck out of politics. It is poisoning your brain, or what little is left of it. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/357 "2019-01-19T16:35:30Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Imagine making these three posts. Imagine _thinking_ like that about people - “Yeah, sure, this person drove without a license 30 years ago and yeah, I _technically_ support people voting, but _obviously_ anyone who thinks he should get the right to vote back is just awful.” Admitting that _by your own principles_, this is the right thing to do, and yet you still insist on giving people shit about it. > > What a fucking terrible human being. Dude, get the fuck out of politics. It is poisoning your brain, or what little is left of it. Shush. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/358 "2019-01-19T18:02:34Z")
> [@Did Pelosi just un-invite Trump from the State of the Union?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/366): > > Well, what you don’t get is your whole argument fails because of your assumption of rationality. Trump is president. Is that the product of Vulcan logic? Y’know, I just realized - I could be talking to people who _do_ have a basic assumption of rationality, and who don’t use “stop expecting me to be rational” as an excuse for how _awful_ some of their recent opinions are. Welcome to the ignore list, you shitty person. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/359 "2019-01-19T18:54:24Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Y’know, I just realized - I could be talking to people who _do_ have a basic assumption of rationality, and who don’t use “stop expecting me to be rational” as an excuse for how _awful_ some of their recent opinions are. Welcome to the ignore list, you shitty person. Oh noes! The ignore list!!1! ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/360 "2019-01-19T19:14:53Z")
From an Elections thread: > [@Did Pelosi just un-invite Trump from the State of the Union?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-pelosi-just-un-invite-trump-from-the-state-of-the-union/827898/369): > > Yeah… when this board is infested with people who can’t wait for old white males to die and think that conservatives should be stripped of the right to vote and put in re-education camps and no one bats an eye or feigns outrage or wants to tone police forgive me if I don’t share your so-called concern. I can’t even… I tried to get through: WHAT? Do you really believe that? I’ll admit there are one or two Chicken Littles that have said something akin to “conservatives should be stripped of the right to vote and put in re-education camps”, but I bet they took their meds the next day and rethought that. One or two is a long ways from “this board is infested with”. In fact, I bet it was just one, and he’s feeling better now. But I think to avoid living with a really horrible strawman fallacy, you should count them. We’ll wait, it won’t take long… ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/361 "2019-01-19T23:34:53Z")
I can think of one person who matches the description and he’s been roundly ridiculed and told he’s an ass. I would certainly be curious to see the list of posters who say that stuff who haven’t been censured. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550.md?page=19)