# Octopus here's your own thread to shit all over

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 6, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550 "2018-06-06T15:40:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/522 "2020-07-08T17:43:10Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

I believe what he meant by that was:

“I’m a fucking troll, so here is some complete crap that I hope will provoke someone.”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/523 "2020-07-27T01:49:48Z")

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> [@Feds 'black-bagging people' in Portland](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-black-bagging-people-in-portland/915638/224):
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> No source or cite satisfy the folks here who ask for them.

> [@Feds 'black-bagging people' in Portland](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-black-bagging-people-in-portland/915638/712):
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> Like I said: far-right/Russian propaganda.

> [@Feds 'black-bagging people' in Portland](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-black-bagging-people-in-portland/915638/946):
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> Or maybe I’m actually watching events as they are being recorded. [https://twitter.com/TweetBrettMac/status/1287266843510669312?ref\_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1287266843510669312|twgr^&ref\_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2020%2F07%2Fcar-drives-mob-protesters-colorado-highway-protester-shoots-fellow-protesters-trying-shoot-driver%2F](https://twitter.com/TweetBrettMac/status/1287266843510669312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1287266843510669312%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2020%2F07%2Fcar-drives-mob-protesters-colorado-highway-protester-shoots-fellow-protesters-trying-shoot-driver%2F)

[Thanks for the confirmation, I guess.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/feds-black-bagging-people-in-portland/915638/950)

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/524 "2020-07-27T03:39:16Z")

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Being dumb and dishonest is a hard combo. I feel for you.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/525 "2020-07-27T03:41:32Z")

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Heck, he might become president!

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/526 "2020-07-27T06:11:34Z")

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Rich, coming from the guy calling protesters violent, while using a video of someone driving through a crowd of protesters as “proof”.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/527 "2020-07-27T13:39:51Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Being dumb and dishonest is a hard combo. I feel for you.

You make it look easy. Must be all those years of experience.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/528 "2020-07-27T15:24:42Z")

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The exact words were “shooting at random jeeps”, ergo the git was not aware that the Jeep driver caused protesters to scramble out of the way thus clearly was not “actually watching events as they are being recorded” and linked the first bit of far-right propaganda which supports the “random jeep” narrative.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/529 "2020-07-27T16:35:11Z")

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It appears that the banning of Clothahump and Shodan, have left a vacuum in the area of snide contentless one liner s and Republican talking points given without an iota of evidence, and the board’s octopod has oozed in to fill the gap. With luck he will meet a similar fate.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/530 "2020-07-27T18:09:16Z")

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Since I don’t use insults an admin has explicitly condoned in ATMB or use the “H’ word I should be safe.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/531 "2020-07-27T18:13:55Z")

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Yep peaceful protester just peacefully firing a gun of peace. Bullet of peace struck other peaceful protester who bled peacefully. Hope they didn’t call the police. That would be fascist.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/532 "2020-07-27T19:21:15Z")

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> [@Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/9091):
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> If they\* were that damn violent they\*\* wouldn’t have to use photos from civil unrest in Ukraine for their campaign advertising. Just saying.
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> > [Facebook: Trump posts misleading ad using Ukraine photo](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53500610)
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> > The US president posts an ad purporting to show violence in the US - but the image is from Ukraine.

Asterisks mine for clarity:

\*protesters

\*\*Trump’s CREEP

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/533 "2020-07-27T19:53:17Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Yep peaceful protester just peacefully firing a gun of peace. Bullet of peace struck other peaceful protester who bled peacefully. Hope they didn’t call the police. That would be fascist.

I see no reason we should not be in complete agreement that guns have no place as part of peaceful protests. We should not see them inside or outside a Michigan State Legislative building and we should not see them on the streets of civil protest marches. The fact that some relatively small number of protesters chose to carry guns does not immediately disqualify the overwhelming majority of peaceful protesters and objectors to the use of brutal force by authorities.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/534 "2020-07-27T21:59:33Z")

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So now defending yourself is bad. Can you pick a position and stick to it, you queef?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/535 "2020-07-28T07:36:48Z")

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Shooting at someone, and missing the target but hitting a fellow protester of peace while that someone is legally driving down something called a road isn’t self defense, oh retarded one. Do you honestly think that if you are standing in the middle of the road with a pack of vermin that you have the right to shoot at anyone legally travelling down that road? You really believe that? I don’t think you do. I think you have no integrity, no sense of morality, and are a nut. I’m sure your mom loves you though.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/536 "2020-07-28T07:41:21Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> {…} a pack of vermin {…}

So, what do you plan to title the book detailing your struggle? Some variation of My Struggle?  
CMC

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/537 "2020-07-28T07:45:47Z")

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Shouldnt you be out smashing windows or knifing MAGA hat wearers?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/538 "2020-07-28T07:54:23Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> {…} smashing windows {…}

Umm, Nights of Broken Glass are your people’s thing, traditionally celebrated on November 9-10.  
CMC

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/539 "2020-07-28T08:07:43Z")

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Projection? Your far left radicals are the ones who are engaged in all this ridiculous, politically motivated violence. How dumb do you have to be to pretend that what is happening isn’t happening.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/540 "2020-07-28T08:17:37Z")

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Right, as we’ve all learned, far right radicals can’t engage in politically motivated violence by definition.  
And, of course, when they _do_ then they were never on the right in the first place.  
CMC

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/541 "2020-07-28T08:24:28Z")

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You’re the one who sees mostly peaceful protesters and freaks out at the violence, and then uses that to justify completely overriding the US. Constitution and the values that Americans hold. You want to remove freedom of speech and assembly for people who upset you.

Soldiers who chose to uphold the constitution are now there to try and protect Portlanders from their own government. A restraining order is now in effect to stop the feds from what they’re doing.

You used to believe in the First Amendment. You used to go on and on about how people should be able to disagree. But now that the right wing propaganda machine can show a few assholes who are violent, you’ve completely changed to supporting government suppression of speech and assembly.

You ignore that all of the actual experts say that this is not only the wrong way to deescalate the situation, but actually makes it more and more likely it’ll develop into a full on insurgency.

And, of course, you continue to not think that Black Lives Matter or that the police should be required to use the least amount of violence possible. That alone goes against our American values.

You used to be a reasonable person. We would talk about issues, like the basic minimum income. You would have actual counterarguments to liberal ideas. But that’s not been you for a long time.

You’ve become radicalized. You only post emotional screeds where you respond exactly how Trump and his propaganda want you to. Even while Republicans are repudiating all the anti-American actions of the President, you’re becoming more and more a true believer.

And, yes, I want you to tell me I’m wrong–with evidence. That the original @octopus is still in there somewhere, and that you aren’t just a completely lost cause. That, somewhere in there, you still believe in due process, innocence until proven guilty, freedoms of speech, assembly, thought, etc.

But, as is, you just act like a robot for the anti-American elements.

And I sure as hell hope that there aren’t enough who think like you that we do actually have a full on civil war. Escalation is never the answer.

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