# Octopus here's your own thread to shit all over

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 6, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550 "2018-06-06T15:40:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/643 "2020-10-09T21:46:14Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Fun thing about tyranny.
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> It’s _never_ on your side.

Maybe not on _my_ side, but there are plenty of people who benefit from tyranny. That’s why it’s so popular. The Confederacy was supported by lots of white people for a reason.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/644 "2020-10-09T21:50:38Z")

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Someday, I’ll learn this new multi-quoting…

Until then, wrong!

Your goofy buzzwords are not truth. And I don’t think you should use words like ahistorical if you don’t know what they mean.

Why the left downplays when they are not outright ignoring leftist atrocities is such an enigma. Is it that there are sympathies? Or is it that the lives of those who perished under the murderous reign of leftists are just not as valuable?

Where is your outrage over Communist China? Or socialist Venezuela? It’s funny that people who can flee those ideologies move here.

I see that sport is silent over atrocities in China. I wonder why. Is their silence violence? No? Just good business?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/645 "2020-10-09T21:51:44Z")

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Such a fuckin dumbshit. I can’t even.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/646 "2020-10-09T21:53:32Z")

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Mmhmm. Of course you can’t. If you could refute the history you would. Instead you laugh off genocide as fun pop art.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/647 "2020-10-09T21:54:26Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> We are about to have an election with a peaceful transfer of power. Aside from Biden supporters burning stuff down and looting Target if their side loses what is there to fear? In 5-6 week we’ll see who’s right.

What do you mean “if their side loses?” You confidently declared there’s going to be a transfer of power. If Trump wins, then there’s no transfer of power at all.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/648 "2020-10-09T21:59:31Z")

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SILENCE! Imbecile.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/649 "2020-10-09T22:02:13Z")

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The implication being if Biden wins Trump isn’t going to start a civil war and stay in power. Thus a peaceful transfer of power. OR a mostly peaceful keeping of power.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/650 "2020-10-09T23:01:47Z")

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What are the odds?:

> **[Trump just went full fascist](https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-trump-just-went-full-fascist-20201009-h376455zo5acnbxvrdzjyllgju-story.html)**
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> While everyone was distracted by the vice-presidential debate on Wednesday and the apparent attraction of a fly to Mike Pence’s head (not to mention his evasions about the peaceful transfer of power), many missed the fact that Donald Trump was busy...

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/651 "2020-10-09T23:15:15Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> The implication being if Biden wins Trump isn’t going to start a civil war and stay in power. Thus a peaceful transfer of power. OR a mostly peaceful keeping of power.

Cite required. Last I heard, he wanted to do away with the ballots and just go with a continuation.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/652 "2020-10-10T13:09:57Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> The implication being if Biden wins Trump isn’t going to start a civil war and stay in power. Thus a peaceful transfer of power. OR a mostly peaceful keeping of power.

Okay, you described 2 peaceful outcomes that you’re certain about, which means you were confused or lying when you intimated that Biden supporters might get violent if he lost.

Or, as seems more historically on-brand, you’re talking out of your ass with no thought to factuality or logical consistency.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/653 "2020-10-10T19:04:39Z")

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Mostly peaceful transfer of power. That should cover everything.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/654 "2020-10-10T20:03:47Z")

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So Biden is definitely winning and Trump is not, then? Otherwise what’s the transfer?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/655 "2020-10-10T20:05:11Z")

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Oh goodness. Some things are implied. I.e. peaceful transfer of power if Biden wins. Mostly peaceful continuity of power if Trump wins. 🙂

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/656 "2020-10-10T20:10:58Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Oh goodness. Some things are implied. I.e. peaceful transfer of power if Biden wins. Mostly peaceful continuity of power if Trump wins.

Okay, because I could have sworn you said it wasn’t going to be peaceful if Biden loses. Oh wait, you did.

> [@octopus](#):
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> . Aside from Biden supporters burning stuff down and looting Target if their side loses what is there to fear?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/657 "2020-10-10T20:16:00Z")

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Mostly peaceful. Much like mostly peaceful riots, the mostly peaceful arson, mostly peaceful looting, mostly peaceful battle of Stalingrad.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/658 "2020-10-10T20:20:33Z")

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Oh, that’s odd. You’ve listed a few events that you consider to be quite violent. That doesn’t sound like you expect any kind of peaceful process at all.

One could be forgiven for thinking you’re just saying random meaningless stuff to avoid getting pinned down on an error of lazy rhetorical overreach. I mean, I’d never think that, but some people might.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/659 "2020-10-10T21:58:18Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> …mostly peaceful battle of Stalingrad.

Alex, I’ll take “Non sequiturs historical references because I think they make me sound smart” for $200.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/660 "2020-10-13T17:39:16Z")

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Mostly peaceful kidnapping and murder plots.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/661 "2020-10-17T04:12:49Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Mostly peaceful. Much like mostly peaceful riots, the mostly peaceful arson, mostly peaceful looting, mostly peaceful battle of Stalingrad.

Still going for the shithead idea that Biden supports riot and arson. It remains fake.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/LgHXJ3rdOn0/maxresdefault.jpg "Be Not Afraid | Joe Biden For President 2020") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgHXJ3rdOn0)

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/662 "2020-10-17T05:43:18Z")

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I’m not sure if Biden knows what Biden supports. Anyways, I mentioned Biden’s supporters. The ideological zealots who demand not just purity but fervor or else a consequencing will occur. If they still taught history instead of acting to tear it down and destroy it folks would be worried about the illiberal radicals who exploit any tragedy possible to push for collectivism.

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