# Octopus here's your own thread to shit all over **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550 "2018-06-06T15:40:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/804 "2020-12-08T23:49:40Z")
Maybe the _cites_ were burned, not _cities_. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/805 "2020-12-08T23:50:37Z")
I always reserve the right to just not address that member at all. So yes, even goofy made up pronouns. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/806 "2020-12-08T23:53:03Z")
There was a city and there was fire within it therefore, by the power of Pretzel Potato Logic, the city was on fire in the past and is now burned. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/807 "2020-12-08T23:59:20Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Potato Logic Now I’m curious if such a thing is possible. See what you did? Off to GQ. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/808 "2020-12-09T02:13:11Z")
It’s possible. Potato logic, potato math, potato grammar… potato land is full of possibilities. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/809 "2020-12-09T02:15:05Z")
Obvious troll is obvious boring. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/810 "2020-12-09T13:15:13Z")
Aw, you mean I wasted my time trying to take you seriously? You mean you t-worded me? Aw! ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/811 "2020-12-09T13:19:17Z")
Your post wasn’t serious. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/812 "2020-12-09T17:49:21Z")
Dude, I made an honest attempt to understand this passage. > [@octopus](#): > > I suspect you feel the state can be constrained even if entrusted with more power. My understanding of history leaves me feeling highly skeptical that that’s the case. This is why I consistently support the rights of the abhorrent. I feel that, while sub optimal, it is less dangerous then empowering the state or proxies to suppress freedoms. Believe me, I dislike radical or reactionary politics as much as you do. I disagree with how society should tolerate and handle the issue though. You prefer “the abhorrent” over The State, right? Who is abhorrent and why are they more qualified to determine your freedoms? Notice I’m not telling you to fuck off or choke on your own ink like 99% of the SDMB. I’m breaking away from the hive mind. I’m asking you to enlighten us. This is your chance to impart your wisdom and solve the world’s problems. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/813 "2020-12-09T18:21:45Z")
If “order” is so goddamned important in your political outlook, you’re not really interested in restraining the power of the state. So let’s nip that bullshit in the bud right now. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/814 "2020-12-09T18:44:50Z")
Ok. I’ll clarify. I support broad individual rights even if used to express abhorrent, obscene, perverse, or blasphemous sentiments or images. I do not support the concentration of power into the hands of those who run the state or their brown shirts. This is not a novel or alien concept in the USA. Unfortunately, the radical left is an enemy of liberty and think they have the unique wisdom and virtue to dictate what’s acceptable to discuss, debate, or think. It’s amazing that their unholy influence even extends to message boards. And I doubt anyone here will consider this post wise. And I am under no illusion that the world’s problems are solvable with reason. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/815 "2020-12-09T19:03:32Z")
But yesterday you appeared to agree with me that the White House’s encouragement of violence, and outright orders to commit brutal violence against peaceful protesters, are far greater threats to free speech than a handful of largely powerless but violent randoms sprinkled among the very large number of entirely peaceful protesters. Backtracking? ---
**Author:** ![MrMrmrmr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmrmrmr/32/5828_2.png) [@MrMrmrmr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMrmrmr)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/816 "2020-12-09T19:08:35Z")
I think America was great when universities were where you went to hear people speak about ideas that challenged and disturbed ones worldview. Sadly now the left only wants people to speak if they are in agreement. If we could go back to the level of intellectual curiosity that used to be promoted, yah, that’d be great. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/817 "2020-12-09T19:39:44Z")
> [@MrMrmrmr](#): > > I think America was great when universities were where you went to hear people speak about ideas that challenged and disturbed ones worldview. That still happens. > [@MrMrmrmr](#): > > Sadly now the left only wants people to speak if they are in agreement. You are sadly mistaken. > [@MrMrmrmr](#): > > If we could go back to the level of intellectual curiosity that used to be promoted, yah, that’d be great. If the people who came to speak about their ideas were promoting ideas that were true, or at least consistent, then that’d be great. If the people who wanted them to come speak wanted them to speak in order to challenge their own worldview, that’d be great too. Unfortunately, what happens is that people invite others to speak who will reinforce their own twisted, inconsistent, and ultimately wrong and harmful worldview. That those actions are met with objection is not a lack of intellectual curiosity on those who are against spreading ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/818 "2020-12-09T19:53:51Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > > [@MrMrmrmr](#): > > > > I think America was great when universities were where you went to hear people speak about ideas that challenged and disturbed ones worldview. > > That still happens. > > > [@MrMrmrmr](#): > > > > Sadly now the left only wants people to speak if they are in agreement. > > You are sadly mistaken. A university is completely worthless if it doesn’t allow Ben Shapiro to come by and explain why music that portrays women enjoying sex is evil and wrong and will corrupt our children, but music that glorifies men enjoying sex is just fine. ---
**Author:** ![MrMrmrmr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmrmrmr/32/5828_2.png) [@MrMrmrmr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMrmrmr)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/819 "2020-12-09T20:19:48Z")
I have not seen where Ben was ok with songs glorifying men having sex. Perhaps you could lead me to the post or video. ---
**Author:** ![MrMrmrmr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmrmrmr/32/5828_2.png) [@MrMrmrmr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMrmrmr)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/820 "2020-12-10T03:10:46Z")
I googled it and couldn’t find support for the position that Ben is OK with songs that glorifies men having sex. A little help. Reference to Stripes where the basketball is returned to the second story apartment by smashing through a different window than what it went out of. Ready to give a Bill Murray “Thank you”. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/821 "2020-12-10T03:53:07Z")
Has Ben made any videos declaring a moral panic over songs that glorify men having sex? There’s your answer. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/822 "2020-12-10T04:09:23Z")
Octopus- “I am such a genius when it come to jerking people around!” MrMrmrmr- “Hold my beer.” ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/823 "2020-12-10T04:22:17Z")
I never said they were greater. I said I could perhaps join the chorus of denunciation, here, when the right is acting improperly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550.md?page=42)