# Octopus here's your own thread to shit all over **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550 "2018-06-06T15:40:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/824 "2020-12-10T04:24:22Z")
And speakers on the right are met with rioters who employ, with the implicit support of universities and local politicians, a violent hecklers veto. ---
**Author:** ![MrMrmrmr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrmrmrmr/32/5828_2.png) [@MrMrmrmr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMrmrmr)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/825 "2020-12-10T04:24:36Z")
I declare a thumb war. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/826 "2020-12-10T04:26:12Z")
Ha! Talking about wet ass pussy? The lyrics of which if shared by a poster in MPSIMS or such would result in 15 ATMB threads, 100000 posts, 5 bans, and 22 flounces? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/827 "2020-12-10T04:31:43Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Ok. I’ll clarify. I support broad individual rights even if used to express abhorrent, obscene, perverse, or blasphemous sentiments or images. I do not support the concentration of power into the hands of those who run the state or their brown shirts. > > This is not a novel or alien concept in the USA. Unfortunately, the radical left is an enemy of liberty and think they have the unique wisdom and virtue to dictate what’s acceptable to discuss, debate, or think. It’s amazing that their unholy influence even extends to message boards. Was it you who objected to a shoot-em-up video game removing swastikas? You don’t like censorship of any kind, right? Do you think The State is responsible for censorship in all cases? I’m pretty sure whoever made the video game was more concerned about customers refusing to buy their game _because_ of the swastikas. Who to you is the radical left? antifa? BLM? Anybody who’s political affiliation starts with D? How do you connect the radical left with censorship? Do you think anarchists and the politically correct are the same subset? Too many questions, and I’m sure you don’t feel like answering them, so I’ll take Discourse’s brown shirt advice and limit responding to you to the third time so that others can participate. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/828 "2020-12-10T07:25:34Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Has Ben made any videos declaring a moral panic over songs that glorify men having sex? > There’s your answer. Precisely. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/829 "2020-12-10T07:28:27Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Ha! Talking about wet ass pussy? The lyrics of which if shared by a poster in MPSIMS or such would result in 15 ATMB threads, 100000 posts, 5 bans, and 22 flounces? Do you really think this is some kind of “gotcha”? There are many places where those lyrics would by inappropriate. A middle school dance is one. MPSIMS is another. There are also places where it is inappropriate for a woman to have enjoyable sex. The problem is that Ben seems to think that EVERY place is an inappropriate place for those things, because he is a sad, backwards, repressed little man. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/830 "2020-12-10T09:33:17Z")
Well then that’s really dumb. The White House encouraging and especially ordering violence and chaos is a far, far greater threat to free speech than a relatively tiny number of powerless looters among the huge number of peaceful protesters. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/831 "2020-12-10T11:26:48Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > You prefer “the abhorrent” over The State, right? Who is abhorrent and why are they more qualified to determine your freedoms? Notice I’m not telling you to fuck off or choke on your own ink like 99% of the SDMB. I’m breaking away from the hive mind. I’m asking you to enlighten us. This is your chance to impart your wisdom and solve the world’s problems. I find it hard to believe anyone is honestly confused by this. If you want to ban abhorrent stuff you have to empower someone to decide what is abhorrent. Then whoever you empowered, whether the state, big tech or whatever, may decide that what _you_ want to say or do is abhorrent too, and censor you. Which means you have less freedom. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/832 "2020-12-10T11:55:32Z")
Ahh yes, the freedom to use someone else’s platform as if it was yours. Sadly, Roosevelt forgot ‘The freedom to post on Facebook’ in his list. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/833 "2020-12-10T12:20:59Z")
I think they are entirely appropriate in Cafe Society if the title included an adult content disclaimer. I don’t think we need to infantilize the women around here. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/834 "2020-12-10T12:22:27Z")
Who is advocating for restricting the right to say abhorrent things? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/835 "2020-12-10T12:23:45Z")
$10s of millions of fire and looting damage and theft is not powerless. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/836 "2020-12-10T12:24:25Z")
It’s much, much less powerful than the WH ordering the brutalization of peaceful protesters, and rhetorically advocating for chaos and violence. And for the whole country, those numbers are indeed relatively powerless. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/837 "2020-12-10T12:29:21Z")
I disagree that the target of arrest and prosecution were actual peaceful protesters. The targets were rioters, arsonists, looters, and those engage in assaults on civilians and the police. It was rightful to arrest AND prosecute those who were engaged in actual criminal behavior. It’s not accurate to suggest those engaged in legitimate protest were the primary target. Furthermore, while folks do have a right to peaceful protest during a pandemic I’d have liked to see a bit of social distancing. It’s funny how leftist politicians and the media twisted logic to excuse irresponsible and criminal behavior. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/838 "2020-12-10T12:39:08Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I disagree that the target of arrest and prosecution were actual peaceful protesters. The targets were rioters, arsonists, looters, and those engage in assaults on civilians and the police. It was rightful to arrest AND prosecute those who were engaged in actual criminal behavior. It’s not accurate to suggest those engaged in legitimate protest were the primary target. I’m not talking about arrest and prosecution. I’m talking about brutalization. The administration ordered federal agents and troops to brutalize peaceful protesters in DC, Portland, and elsewhere. And those agents and troops carried out those orders. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/839 "2020-12-10T12:40:59Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Who is advocating for restricting the right to say abhorrent things? Well, there is this guy that constantly complains about people’s ‘potty mouths’… ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/840 "2020-12-10T12:42:48Z")
Brutalizations of peaceful protesters is wrong. Participating in a looting spree, arson spree, occupation of a city center, and violent assault is also wrong and should have been stopped and those who were part of it arrested and prosecuted. That’s what makes the Antifa folk so stupid. They don’t realize that their criminal behavior is highly counterproductive and makes them the bad guys. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/841 "2020-12-10T12:44:24Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Brutalizations of peaceful protesters is wrong. And purposeful state brutalization of peaceful protesters, like this administration engaged in, is a million times more harmful to free speech than a very small number of assholes looting and rioting. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/842 "2020-12-10T12:48:38Z")
Yes. Doesn’t mean I want you prohibited from being a potty mouth. Now, if you violate the rules here I’d like to see that equally enforced even though they aren’t such as with shodan. But, I don’t write the rules here. So, I’m free to comment on your language and you are free to express yourself. I don’t want you silenced, to lose a job, get kicked out of school, have your dog leave you, or ‘consequenced’ in any way for exercising your rights. I’m not a head sawing Islamic fundamentalist or a leftist so I support your right to be a draw cartoons or be a potty mouth. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/843 "2020-12-10T12:48:56Z")
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