# Octopus here's your own thread to shit all over

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 6, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550 "2018-06-06T15:40:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1024 "2021-01-06T21:33:16Z")

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I’m not saying that each party doesn’t have factions that are troubling. It’s just that claiming the whole is equivalent to any random subset is fallacious.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1025 "2021-01-06T21:34:36Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I’m not saying that each party doesn’t have factions that are troubling. It’s just that claiming the whole is equivalent to any random subset is fallacious

Sorta like how a couple of guys using the distraction to steal shoes and TVs shouldn’t distract from the Civil rights protests of BLM? Or does that logic only apply to Reich Wingers?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1026 "2021-01-06T21:36:02Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I’m not saying that each party doesn’t have factions that are troubling. It’s just that claiming the whole is equivalent to any random subset is fallacious.

Like when you willfully ignored that many in the past (like Biden and me) did condemn the violence in the past?

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1027 "2021-01-06T21:36:22Z")

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I’m so disappointed in you. Surely you must recognize the difference, symbolically and practically, between rioting in the street and staging an armed insurrection against the US capitol. I can’t remember a more devastating day for our nation since 9/11. And you chose this day, of all days, of all moments in history, to push your one - note agenda. Have some fucking compassion for Christ’s sake.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1028 "2021-01-06T21:37:27Z")

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Octopus, being raised with the religious views of my grandmother, a woman Scottish by ancestry, Calvinist by upbringing, and Catholic by conversion; I would like to honor her memory by offering you and your fellow MAGA brethren a prayer, a slightly modified version of Psalm 58:

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> Do ye indeed speak righteousness, O MAGA? do ye judge uprightly, O ye sons of Trump?
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> 2 Yea, in heart ye work wickedness; ye weigh the violence of your hands in the earth.
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> 3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
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> 4 Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear;
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> 5 Which will not hearken to the voice of charmers, charming never so wisely.
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> 6 Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth: break out the great teeth of the young lions, O Lord.
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> 7 Let them melt away as waters which run continually: when he bendeth his bow to shoot his arrows, let them be as cut in pieces.
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> 8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.
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> 9 Before your pots can feel the thorns, he shall take them away as with a whirlwind, both living, and in his wrath.
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> 10 The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.
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> 11 So that a man shall say, Verily there is a reward for the righteous: verily he is a God that judgeth in the earth.

Of course, if you don’t believe in Christianity… not too sure if I do myself, but I still keep coming back to it in this age of MAGA… that Old Testament vibe still does a _fantastic_ job of explaining what I now, after this point, think of you and your fellow MAGAtty terrorists.

I may calm down. We will see.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1029 "2021-01-06T21:37:31Z")

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He’s just a troll. It’s probably been clear for years but somehow I refused to see it. Trolling piece of shit.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1030 "2021-01-06T21:37:43Z")

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Mob violence is counterproductive. It’s as simple as that. Excusing it because it gets rid of an oppressive statue of an elk is a long term losing strategy because all it does is validate might makes right and process be damned. The hive is missing the big picture and is far too fixated on short term ‘wins.’ That and you folks are overly emotional is not good.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1031 "2021-01-06T21:38:45Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Well, I am embarrassed to have been wrong. I had hoped my side was the civilized side.

There’s no shame in being wrong, but to be wrong repeatedly while others are patiently explaining to you what’s going on?

I personally would be pretty embarrassed, but then again, that requires a functioning capacity for shame and introspection.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1032 "2021-01-06T21:40:29Z")

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Advocating violence is against the terms. I don’t advocate violence, why do you? Oh I forgot, it’s perfectly kosher to advocate violence against the right on this board. It’s not trolling when the mods agree.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1033 "2021-01-06T21:41:19Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Mob violence is counterproductive. It’s as simple as that. Excusing it because it gets rid of an oppressive statue of an elk is a long term losing strategy because all it does is validate might makes right and process be damned. The hive is missing the big picture and is far too fixated on short term ‘wins.’ That and you folks are overly emotional is not good.

Trollololol lolol lolol

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1034 "2021-01-06T21:45:00Z")

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Well, I didn’t vote for trump in 16. I did in 20 because of the leftist violence of the summer. Hell, even Portland’s mayor has finally become annoyed with the scornful antifa.

You bubble dwellers don’t understand that when the media and leftist politicians promote violence it can backfire. Every time folks here excused vandalism, assault on folks exercising fundamental rights, or other form of violence I would speak out against it and be labeled a nazi for doing so.

Cmon folks be honest for a change.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1035 "2021-01-06T21:45:26Z")

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Trollolol lolol lolol lolol

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1036 "2021-01-06T22:03:57Z")

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Were you looking for some vandalism to condemn, **octopus**?

[https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p526x296/136097324\_10222467984755914\_4162634165487326669\_o.jpg?\_nc\_cat=107&ccb=2&\_nc\_sid=8bfeb9&\_nc\_ohc=Agb93eC5zmgAX8DOU-L&\_nc\_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&tp=6&oh=f3fa37046ad2e13f84ca187eb1cbb3b8&oe=601B9F67](https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p526x296/136097324_10222467984755914_4162634165487326669_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Agb93eC5zmgAX8DOU-L&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&tp=6&oh=f3fa37046ad2e13f84ca187eb1cbb3b8&oe=601B9F67)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1037 "2021-01-06T22:11:42Z")

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Or pottymouths like the guy I saw flip off the news camera earlier today?

At this point, nothing would surprise me.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1038 "2021-01-06T22:14:36Z")

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Political mob violence is bad. I’ve consistently stated that. Why can’t you folks? Why do you folks cheer it when you believe it advances your goals?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1039 "2021-01-06T22:21:13Z")

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We did, you dumb motherfucker. How brain damaged are you?

Eta: oh, I almost took you seriously for a second. That’s right, you’re a trollololol lolol lolol

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1040 "2021-01-06T22:22:56Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Well, I didn’t vote for trump in 16. I did in 20 because of the leftist violence of the summer.

God, this must be your saddest self-own to date.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1041 "2021-01-06T22:23:34Z")

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It is a disappointment. I may need to put a brown bag over my avatar.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1042 "2021-01-06T22:25:37Z")

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We did. We all said they shouldn’t be doing that. Problem was, **you then used that as an excuse to justify violence against peaceful protesters.**

That’s what you got condemned for. You were okay with violence being used to suppress freedom of speech as long as it was used against a cause you didn’t support.

And now you can’t even bring yourself to say what you said about the others. You’re mad at us, not at the violence. Funny that.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1043 "2021-01-06T22:26:10Z")

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Now _that_ is sedition.

~Max

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