# Octopus here's your own thread to shit all over **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 6, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550 "2018-06-06T15:40:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1225 "2022-08-15T19:35:30Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Progressives seek a peaceful and just society and have been appalled at the brutality and outright killings direct by some police forces against Black people. What they have called for is reform of police culture so that all citizens are treated fairly under the law, and preferably not killed by the likes of Derek Chavin. To characterize this as wanting to abolish police forces and eliminate incarceration is the most reprehensible kind of dishonesty and reckless attempt to smear your opponents Just to play Devil’s advocate (and maybe to explain the dirty tactics of RW pundits), there are _some_ isolated incidents in small jurisdictions where this has been done. We have had some places where they essentially fired all of their police. Here is a recent one (which we talked about in the Stupid MFers Pit thread). > **[After a police officer sent a racist text, a town dissolved its police...](https://www.npr.org/2022/08/07/1116221784/vincent-alabama-racist-text-police)** > > After officials in Vincent, Ala., fired the police chief and assistant chief, the city council voted to end the department entirely. But the mayor says it's only a temporary measure. As you can see though, it’s a temporary measure in response to an extreme circumstance. **There is no concerted effort to remove police departments.** Folks on the right like to take examples like this one and say, “See? They want to get rid of police and create anarchy on the streets!” It’s the political equivalent of pointing to a solar eclipse and yelling about how the sun is gone and we are all going to die. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1226 "2022-08-15T20:06:10Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > We have had some places where they essentially fired all of their police. I understand what you’re saying, that this sort of incident is irrelevant – just as irrelevant as the fact that undoubtedly a few crackpots have chanted “defund the police”. I think it’s worth adding, too, that in the example you cite, which can be read as “town dissolves its entire police force”, the subtext is “all three of them”. Actually, it was all two of them; the third officer quit on his own. The population of the entire town is less than 8% of the typical attendance at a baseball game. But yes, our resident cephalopodic troll will use this as proof that “the progressive left” has brought anarchy to America! It probably all began when Biden supporters, in between burning down cities, helped Biden steal the election. These are the kinds of “facts” we’re dealing with here. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1227 "2022-08-15T20:12:18Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I think it’s worth adding, too, that in the example you cite, which can be read as “town dissolves its entire police force”, the subtext is “all three of them”. That’s why I was careful to specify this was happening in “small jurisdictions”. I was demonstrating that this wasn’t completely made up of whole cloth, but it was badly distorting and exaggerating some rare and small incidents. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1228 "2022-08-15T20:23:40Z")
His world view is the same as those who worry when someone says they will visit NYC or something. In reality, NYC is safer than small-town America, but it’s an article of faith that it has been practically burned to the ground by protestors. His problem is that he has terrible news source that lie to him all the time. He’s fed a steady stream of right-wing lies and propaganda, and no longer has a reality-based view of the world. So, he jumps into threads and says something that makes sense in whatever distorted reality that he thinks we’re living in, and everyone else goes, “huh?” His other problem is that he adds practically no value to any thread he participates in. He doesn’t answer FQs, he doesn’t debate rationally. He spends most of his time complaining about moderation and making threads all about him, and complaining about the hive mind. Imagine he got all of his news and science education from flat-earthers. Then, when us hive-minders all agreed the Earth is round, he would think we’re all equally deluded. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1229 "2022-08-15T20:50:59Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Imagine he got all of his news and science education from flat-earthers. Then, when us hive-minders all agreed the Earth is round, he would think we’re all equally deluded. That’s exactly the [example](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/2498) I used in the Trolls R Us thread. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1230 "2022-08-15T21:12:59Z")
I probably subconsciously stole that from you, sort of like George Harrison and He’s So Fine. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1231 "2022-08-15T21:42:53Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > […] I never really read much of what you’ve posted, and just remarked that the purple octopus with the top hat and monocle was kinda cute. That is FUCKING RIDICULOUS and I have no idea WHAT you could have been thinking when you posted that!! It’s OBVIOUSLY a PINK octopus. (Hmmm, maybe magenta? Fuchsia?) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1232 "2022-08-15T21:47:21Z")
Purple: [![](https://www.colorcombos.com/images/colors/700CB3.png) ](https://www.colorcombos.com/images/colors/700CB3.png) Magenta: [![](https://www.macmillandictionary.com/external/slideshow/full/Magenta_full.png) ](https://www.macmillandictionary.com/external/slideshow/full/Magenta_full.png) Fuschia: [![](https://www.colorcombos.com/images/colors/FF0080.png) ](https://www.colorcombos.com/images/colors/FF0080.png) Octopus: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/optimized/2X/f/ff03bd5f1d9964549601a9145caa966b2b59e938_2_120x120.png) ](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/optimized/2X/f/ff03bd5f1d9964549601a9145caa966b2b59e938_2_120x120.png) I’m going with Fuschia. Or maybe it is a new color called Molluschia. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1233 "2022-08-15T22:05:30Z")
Thank you, @Kimstu and @Atamasama for taking SDMB nitpicking to a whole new level! 🏆 I humbly admit that “purple” was a poor descriptor, though IMHO it’s magenta that comes closest (according to what I see on my Dell IPS monitor). In my defense, however, when I see police lights off in the distance where the red and blue tend to combine, it sort of looks purplish to me. In actual fact, however, red and blue combine to make purple only in the subtractive colour mixing process of CMYK printing, whereas they combine to make magenta in the additive process of light mixing. Regardless of colour, however, our resident cephalopod is a fucking moron totally detached from reality. And don’t be starting in on me for spelling “colour” correctly. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1234 "2022-08-15T22:21:26Z")
Nah, we dou nout make fun ouf our nourthern neighbours’ ourthougraphical peculiarities. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1235 "2022-08-15T22:34:19Z")
In case anyone cares, the reason that I’ve reverted to correct spelling of words like “colour” and “favour” is that, after years of engaging in the courtesy on this board of conforming with the rebellious anti-British incorrect spelling of our esteemed southern neighbours, I found myself getting so habituated to it that I was using it in correspondence with my fellow Canucks. This resulted in great consternation and suspicions about my loyalty to all things Maple (syrup, leaf, and the hockey team), so I had to break myself of the noxious habit. You guys may continue to spell things wrong. We think it’s charming and we love you anyway. ❤🇺🇸 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1236 "2022-08-15T22:46:19Z")
Don’t blame us, it’s Noah Webster’s fault. Also, at one time these were acceptable ways to spell the word: - colur - culoure - coolor Note that “color” was also acceptable before the British decided it should be spelled “colour” in the 17th century. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1237 "2022-08-15T22:49:23Z")
Taking the center of the image (i.e., eliminating the shading/shadows around the edges), I get a color average of [#DE3279](https://color-hex.org/color/de3279) which is in the magenta family (according to Pantone). Nitpickery AND science! ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1238 "2022-08-15T23:19:30Z")
I just wanted to thank everyone for two things: 1. Taking Octo back out of the prior thread, because, as usual, he adds noting to any thread, which is why he’s ignored. All those blank quotes and hidden replies messed up the flow! 2. Providing useful information in a thread involving Octo, which again, is more than he has every provided, other than an example of what not to be. For the record Octo, not that I think you’ll listen, but the reason we all despise you / are disgusted with you is not because of any sort of a hive mind, but because we all can independently realize you’re a quite the piece of work, who insults literally everyone who doesn’t agree with you, fails to provide coherent arguments based on anything other the poor information, and is proud of it. The only debate to be had about you is if you’re a brainwashed dupe, or a high-functioning troll. And I bet on troll. So, I’ll repeat my comment from the prior thread, right after Ed updated the rules - while you try not to go over the line, you are more trouble than you’re worth to the board, and bring nothing to the table, and therefore should be banned. Okay, done, resume the detailed arguments regarding color combinations and spelling codification. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1239 "2022-08-15T23:48:17Z")
I used to even like octopus once upon a time. He didn’t always post the way he does now. I don’t know what happened to him. Was it Trumpism? Read this thread: > [@Black Hole Matter Distribution](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hole-matter-distribution/726352): > > A few black hole questions: Since Hawking Radiation causes a black hole to lose a set amount of mass per unit time as a function of radius, wouldn’t that information be sufficient to determine the distribution of matter/energy within the black hole? With regards to the space time curvature is that basically the time coordinate is changing as a function of radius? So if we look at each layer of the black hole sort of like an onion, how is it that stuff with a different time coordinate interact… That’s a cool poster. I like that guy. Not as enjoyable but okay in his next thread. > [@Free Speech Consequences](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/free-speech-consequences/756390): > > Another shitlord getting what he deserves for provoking an anti-Trump and anti-American mob with speech. [Trump supporters injured/bleeding after protesters get violent in San Jose. - YouTube](https://youtu.be/a4ITP5-efLY) At least he’s trying to have a real discussion, though he screwed up in the OP (and admitted he did so). > [@Closed Reddy Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/closed-reddy-thread/794140): > > In this thread, [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=833985](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=833985), Reddy Mercury got a warning for trolling. Now, I’m not going to confuse Reddy Mercury for Jonathan Swift. No offense meant, Reddy. But does a satirical thread that actually has a point merit a warning for trolling. I mean the quality and number of political threads that fill the boards about each and every tweet of President Trump are full of language as over the top and frankly ridiculous as Reddy’s satire. Sometimes… Still okay. > [@Revolutionary \[War\] Statue Destroyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revolutionary-war-statue-destroyed/794761): > > It’s funny that those who warn that placating a mob won’t satisfy the mob are vindicated when slippery slope worries once again manifest themselves. Some vandal took it upon himself, herself, \_\_\_\_self and destroyed a statue representing a man from the Revolutionary War era. Again, this isn’t about the civil war or slavery or anything notable. This is an attack on civil and democratic self governance. It’s an attempt to build a climate where if you aggrieved or offended or outraged you can roun… Here is a pretty good discussion. Some disagreement, but civil. Even complimenting people he disagrees with. This is the octopus I remember from years ago. > [@Topic Ban is Unfair and Unjustified](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/topic-ban-is-unfair-and-unjustified/822097): > > I broke no rules. The only thing I’m guilty of is being unpopular with a subset of posters who strategically misrepresent posts. This is what I mean when I say people need to be worried about weaponized language. Regardless of the facts, an accusation can be very damaging. Engineering\_comp\_geek claims there is going to be a discussion where I may or may not be banned from the rest of the SDMB. Is it based on rules I broke? Warnings I never received to ignore? Or is it based on unpopularity and … This is where I start to see today’s octopus. And everything from that point on is garbage. It’s pretty sad! And I’m not saying that with snark or sarcasm. I liked him once. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1240 "2022-08-16T00:05:54Z")
Yeah, ISTM too that it used to be possible to have an actual discussion with octo once you had got past his reflexive initial spray of anti-liberal snark. I don’t know what happened. I’m guessing he would say that he just decided not to waste coherently constructed arguments on our “hive-mind” selves any more, and I hope that that’s true. Because most of the alternative explanations I can think of involve some kind of inadvertent cognitive decline or something, which is sad. 😢 ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1241 "2022-08-16T00:13:23Z")
But, but, octopus assures us he’s here to hone his formidable debating skillz! The entirety of, being, ‘No U!’ ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1242 "2022-08-16T00:16:33Z")
I can carry on conversations just fine with folks who don’t exhibit exceedingly strong group think like most of the hive or are devoid of integrity like what exit and the gossip gang. In a thread about the Looney Left I was having a perfectly fine conversation with Miller only surprise being was no warning was issued for not constructing my posts in essay form with the prompt being the thread title… Think about cause and effect for a little bit and you won’t be surprised that pit attacks and pile ons don’t contribute to a forum love fest. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1243 "2022-08-16T00:24:39Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I can carry on conversations just fine Good, glad to hear it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1244 "2022-08-16T00:38:42Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I can carry on conversations just fine with folks who don’t exhibit exceedingly strong group think like most of the hive or are devoid of integrity like what exit and the gossip gang. Which posters that you currently interact with _aren’t_ part of the “hive” you bring up incessantly? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550.md?page=61) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550.md?page=63)