# Octopus here's your own thread to shit all over

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 6, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550 "2018-06-06T15:40:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1245 "2022-08-16T02:36:14Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Taking the center of the image (i.e., eliminating the shading/shadows around the edges), I get a color average of [#DE3279](https://color-hex.org/color/de3279) which is in the magenta family (according to Pantone).

By george, I think he’s got it!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1246 "2022-08-16T02:43:02Z")

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I nominate the name of that color to be “octopink”.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1247 "2022-08-16T02:44:13Z")

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“Vomigenta”.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1248 "2022-08-16T02:48:48Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> This resulted in great consternation and suspicions about my loyalty to all things Maple (syrup, leaf, and the hockey team)

WHICH hockey team? (looks at wolfpup sideways)

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1249 "2022-08-16T03:12:05Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> WHICH hockey team? (looks at wolfpup sideways)

Da fuq? Which hockey team has “Maple” in its name, bills its fans as “Leafs Nation”, and is so beloved in its home town that Scotiabank Arena is perpetually sold out despite the team having failed to win the Stanley Cup since 1967? My theory is that fans show up to drink big buckets of Molson and watch other teams win, which I’ve found to be a worthwhile occupation when I’ve been able to get tickets.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1250 "2022-08-16T04:24:21Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Taking the center of the image (i.e., eliminating the shading/shadows around the edges), I get a color average of [#DE3279](https://color-hex.org/color/de3279) which is in the magenta family (according to Pantone).
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> Nitpickery AND science!

Yeah, the “whole new level of SDMB nitpicking” trophy never stays with any poster for very long. Here ya go. 🏆😆

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1251 "2022-08-16T04:54:45Z")

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I’m sorry, I’m not familiar with any such team… Of course I mainly pay attention during the playoffs, so I may have missed seeing them in my lifetime.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1252 "2022-08-16T05:27:02Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Da fuq? Which hockey team has “Maple” in its name, bills its fans as “Leafs Nation”, and is so beloved in its home town that Scotiabank Arena is perpetually sold out despite the team having failed to win the Stanley Cup since 1967?

I know this one! Canucks!

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1253 "2022-08-16T12:30:10Z")

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This seems like the perfect time to highlight the risks posed by dangerous aquatic creatures.

[![](https://i1.wp.com/www.canadamemes.com/wp-content/uploads/mememe/2020/08/mememe_8b2e75643be852253b9cf6bd0f7b6f2e-1.jpg?fit=600%2C914&ssl=1) ](https://i1.wp.com/www.canadamemes.com/wp-content/uploads/mememe/2020/08/mememe_8b2e75643be852253b9cf6bd0f7b6f2e-1.jpg?fit=600%2C914&ssl=1)

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1254 "2022-08-16T20:54:54Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I used to even like octopus once upon a time. He didn’t always post the way he does now. I don’t know what happened to him. Was it Trumpism?

He seemed to get bad once the other rightwing trolls, Clothahump and Shodan, got corn fielded. It’s as though there was an ecological niche of douchebaggery that must be filled.

If I were to posit a **G** rand **O** ctopus **U** nified **T** heory. I think a lot of it has to do with a fundamental belief in a universal law of both siderism. Starting from the belief that the Left is just as bad as the right he feels a strong need to counteract what he sees as a severe imbalance between the amount of criticism of the right vs the left on this message board. The problem of course is that the right has gone off the deep end, and many of the former critics have left the board being unable to defend the indefensible it has been solely left to him.

This feeds directly into his first of two soapbox topics, namely cancel culture. If ideas on both sides are equally valid, then the public and academic rejection of right wing talking points can’t be due to their faulty reasoning, moral repugnance, and lack of factual basis, it must be due to a concerted effort to suppress those views for political reasons.

As the sole advocate for the party of evil it had been very hard to keep the both siderism going what with the Republicans being the party of Nazis, bigotry, misinformation and calls to violence. But then in the Summer of 2020 he finally got his second soap box topic. A way to associate the liberals with something that was also objectively not good (setting fire to businesses is bad m’kay). It didn’t matter that no actual Democrat supported the rioting, or that it was unclear whether the people who engaged in property damage were actually BLM supporters. Now no matter what awful indefensible thing the Republicans did he can say “Well at least they didn’t burn down cities.” and keep the balance of bothsiderism intact,

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1255 "2022-08-17T03:04:05Z")

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I rarely post in what I call “personal” pit threads, I’m not a fan of the genre preferring to deal with social/political pit topics. And I had a long-standing rule, years really, not to engage the subject of this thread. I occasionally broke it, but in general, the persona presented to us doesn’t strike me as a mentally stable or healthy one and I felt that engaging them would just worsen the problem.

Regardless, given I was the cause of the latest kerfluffle, I figured I had a few things to say. Starting with this:

> [@Unjust warning for responding to dehumanizing language](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unjust-warning-for-responding-to-dehumanizing-language/969623/1):
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> Singling out my post for the subjective call of a hijack is farcical. Hell, even someone who directly insulted me in a subsequent post merely got a note.

I am a grown-assed adult, if you want to call me out, call me out.

Regardless, the above is easily ignorable. It’s what happened after which I found interesting.

I mention the fact that “hive” and “hive mind” is dehumanizing and, riffing on that, started a poll which was subsequently deleted. Mad, Octo then went to the Trolls r Us thread when the following interaction occurred:

> [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/6945):
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> Summoning the hive to ATMB! That’s what’s despicable and cowardly about you fools. You _need_ social validation.

(I apologize for this, by the way.)

I then responded with this post, with a picture of me holding an “Arrest Trump” sign taken at the FBI office here in San Antonio:

> [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/2489):
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> Imagine coming to social media for social validation, oh the horror!
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> I was also out validating this. Got a lot of thumbs up 👍! Validated!
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> [20220814\_100527 | JohnT\_15 | Flickr](https://flic.kr/p/2nEicno)

All right, so that brings us to the interesting part. I shocked a genuine, no bullshit, response out of the man. It was real. It was honest. It was not faked. And I am still touched, Octo, I truly am.

> [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/2490):
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> I’ll admit that if that’s you doing that that’s more courageous than I’d be in this environment. I’ll have to retract and apologize about the cowardly comment.
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> I’ll say this, I do disagree with you and I do take offense with personal insults outside the pit but in this day and with the crazies IRL and on the internet that you posting that is brave. Kudos.

Please note I am being called courageous for holding a “Arrest Trump” sign in San Antonio, TX. By the single biggest Righty on these Boards. _Because_ I’m holding an “Arrest Trump” sign.

If I were holding a “Arrest Biden” sign, would I have been in danger? Hillary? McConnell? Pence? Pelosi? Garland? Of course not, the idea is preposterous.Would I be in danger from those who also want Trump arrested? Not likely. Would I be in danger from those who don’t care? Probably not.

But Trump supporter? In Octopus’s mind, Trump supporters are so dangerous that he admits that standing outside the _Federal Bureau of Investigation_ with a sign that is effectively _Arrest Aldrich Ames_ is… and let me quote… “more courageous than I’d be in this environment” and “with the crazies IRL and on the internet that you posting that is brave.”

Again, a moment of honesty shocked out of him by a simple photograph.

I then noted:

> [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/2504):
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> On a positive note, I did get Octo to admit that his side is so deadly violent that merely standing outside a FBI office with a sign is ‘brave’.

To which he, sadly, replied:

> [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/2508):
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> That’s a mischaracterization. I said in today’s environment. I wasn’t saying the right or the left are solely responsible for increased heat in their rhetoric nor do I believe political violence is monopolized by one side of the political spectrum.

Which sounds as something he didn’t even believe himself as he was typing it.

Anyway, Octo, you can lie to yourself with that, but you can’t lie to us. You would have never said such a thing had I had an anti-Hillary sign.

Never.

And now, we have a forever-citation of you admitting your side is dangerous.

You’re welcome. 🙂

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1256 "2022-08-17T17:37:06Z")

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Listen goofus, learn 2 read because what you are saying is just not true.

Salmon Rushdie just got ‘consequenced’ as your side loves to threaten and the consequencer wasn’t wearing a glorious MAGA hat.

Anyways, my critique was two fold and while your actions contradict 1/2 my critique the other 1/2 still holds. You have an unhealthy need for social validation. Who brings twitter screenshots of pwnage to other forums? C’mon man!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1257 "2022-08-17T17:43:19Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Salmon Rushdie just got ‘consequenced’ as your side loves to threaten and the consequencer wasn’t wearing a glorious MAGA hat.

Who is Salmon Rushdie? Is it this guy?

[![](https://fritsahlefeldt.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/0d6c2-c0859-watercolor-animal-portrait-salmon-fish-in-suit-artwork-by-frits-ahlefeldt.jpg) ](https://fritsahlefeldt.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/0d6c2-c0859-watercolor-animal-portrait-salmon-fish-in-suit-artwork-by-frits-ahlefeldt.jpg)

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1258 "2022-08-17T17:45:22Z")

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Dall-E is getting good.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1259 "2022-08-17T17:58:29Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Salmon Rushdie just got ‘consequenced’ as your side loves to threaten and the consequencer wasn’t wearing a glorious MAGA hat.

I didn’t realize that Ayatollah Khomeini was a Democrat.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1260 "2022-08-17T18:01:46Z")

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Actually, “Salmon Rushdie” is a delicious way of preparing pan-fried salmon in Tuscan butter, originated by Gordon Ramsay at the Waldorf-Astoria …

[![](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/delish-tuscan-butter-salmon-horizontal-3-1541522697.jpg?crop=1.00xw%3A0.847xh%3B0%2C0.0739xh&resize=960%3A540) ](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/delish-tuscan-butter-salmon-horizontal-3-1541522697.jpg?crop=1.00xw%3A0.847xh%3B0%2C0.0739xh&resize=960%3A540)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1261 "2022-08-17T18:02:21Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Listen goofus, learn 2 read because what you are saying is just not true.

You said it though! No matter how much you lie and handwave and dismiss, you said it!

You admitted your side is so dangerous that _you_ would be scared to hold an ‘Arrest Trump’ sign in front of the FBI!

😂😂😂😂😂

And, omg, Salman Rushdie, really? That’s pathetic even for you.

Anyway, in the space of two hours I:

1. Gave everyone a new issue to complain about you (dehumanizing us via your fave insult).

2. Got you to admit even you are scared of your own side.

My work here is done.

… drops 🎤

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1262 "2022-08-17T18:05:24Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> And, omg, Salman Rushdie, really? That’s pathetic even for a propagandized MAGAT.

Yeah, I’m pretty stuck on this. A reactionary theocrat who follows a conservative government leader tries to murder an author for insulting religion, and this points to a problem with progressives? The fact that the killer wasn’t explicitly a Trump supporter is important? Bwuh?

Maybe I’m no good at reading, but I don’t think that’s the root of the problem here.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1263 "2022-08-17T18:08:33Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> A reactionary theocrat who follows a conservative government leader tries to murder an author for insulting religion, and this points to a problem with progressives?

It’s cancel culture run amok! So much for the vaunted tolerant left.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1264 "2022-08-17T18:08:44Z")

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Maybe not hating Muslims means you support the attack or something. I’m just guessing. I don’t get it either.

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