# Octopus here's your own thread to shit all over

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 6, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550 "2018-06-06T15:40:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-heres-your-own-thread-to-shit-all-over/815550/1220 "2022-08-15T19:22:30Z")

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> [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/6965):
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> So, as I said, I found it jarring that the progressive left with their radical language about defunding the police, abolishing the police, community justice, elimination of incarceration, etc… were now changing their tune and changing it quite aggressively. All it demonstrates is that the message and demand for change weren’t honest and instead they were and are a mechanism to exploit emotions to energize an electorate.

@octopus, as you may or may not have noticed, I’ve been moderately tolerant of you in the past, but it appears that this was mostly because I never really read much of what you’ve posted, and just remarked that the purple octopus with the top hat and monocle was kinda cute. But having read the recent exchanges in which you (and others, but always prompted by you) have derailed the Trolls R Us thread, my opinion has changed very much for the worse. And it’s bullshit like that quoted above that has done it.

This is such a complete load of crap that you are either delusional or trolling. In what universe is “defunding the police”, “abolishing the police”, or “elimination of incarceration” supposed to represent the prevailing opinion of progressives? (Not sure what “community justice” is supposed to mean.) Progressives seek a peaceful and just society and have been appalled at the brutality and outright killings regularly inflicted by some police forces against Black people. What they have called for is reform of police culture so that all citizens are treated fairly under the law, and preferably not killed by the likes of Derek Chauvin. To characterize this as wanting to abolish police forces and eliminate incarceration is the most reprehensible kind of dishonesty and reckless attempt to smear your opponents, exactly the attempt “to exploit emotions to energize an electorate” you accuse others of doing, in yet another unsurprising and unintended projection.

> [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/6965):
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> To address the FBI retrieving documents, of course at this stage it’s going to appear politically motivated.

So it’s your honest considered opinion that the FBI retrieving _ **top secret documents that were said to include highly sensitive nuclear secrets** _, signed off by an FBI director appointed by Trump, an AG noted for his political neutrality, and a highly respected magistrate judge, was politically motivated by Trump haters? Or at least, that _ **rational** _ people will see it that way? You either a liar, delusional, a troll, or maybe all three.

> [@Trolls R Us Resurrections](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-resurrections/950518/6965):
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> The other is practical where I know that due to the human tragedy of addiction and overdose, especially with more and more dangerous drugs entering society, the negative externalities of letting Darwin do the work would make that approach unacceptable. That said, even with a crackdown on narcotics being the law, I do think we need to be very careful about the erosion of civil liberties while enforcing the law.

You will note that the context of what you’re responding to is about cannabis. To use terminology like “addiction and overdose” and “narcotics” in that context is just more totally delusional right-wing blathering.

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