# Octopus is having a meltdown... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 28, 2018, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098 "2018-09-28T08:26:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/161 "2018-10-02T07:19:02Z")
> [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](#): > > What I feel is going on is following sanctions rightfully given to \*\*Octopus \*\*, he’s flaunting every SDMB rule he knows about. Things like trolling every forum, trying to start board wars _in ATMB_, etc. to ramp up his efforts to push the boundaries. All in the effort to go out in a blaze of glory and/or seek martyrdom for a desperate grasp of self worth. The beautiful thing about this is that quite obviously the moderators are having none of it and allowing him to thrash impotently to the amusement of us all. I think he’s also a little envious now of how his good woman-hating whataboutery tag-team chum **Starving Artist** beat him to that misogyny mod-suicide martyrdom milestone. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/162 "2018-10-23T19:10:17Z")
Ah well, at least my ignore list isn’t empty anymore. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/163 "2018-10-23T21:48:16Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > How would I have known that? Where are you thinking of moving, and Why? and when??? Soon? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/164 "2018-10-23T22:52:40Z")
When are we going to stop pretending this is about diversity of viewpoints, and recognize it’s about a handful of shit-gibbons shitting their shitty selves on everything for their own shitty amusement? ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/165 "2018-10-23T23:18:48Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > That’s pure nonsense. I was pitted and piled on long before I said a cross word to anyone. I don’t even hold a grudge. What I don’t like is people lying about me. I don’t like people lying about my point of view. And I really don’t like how effective those tactics are at shaping perceptions. > > It’s despicable how you and others who employ these tactics are. You are pretentious, dishonest, hypocrites. And in spite of all that, I still engage more civilly and with a greater deference to the rules than the trolls that pester me. I’d ask if you’re hallucinating, but clearly you just have a very, _very_ selective memory. That and a bit of internalism of the Republican motto: It’s not bad if _I_ do it, but if _you_ do it it’s horrible! ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/166 "2018-10-23T23:39:49Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > I’d ask if you’re hallucinating, but clearly you just have a very, _very_ selective memory. > > That and a bit of internalism of the Republican motto: It’s not bad if _I_ do it, but if _you_ do it it’s horrible! Riiigghhhhtttt… ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/167 "2018-10-23T23:47:42Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Riiigghhhhtttt… Hey, all I know is the moment I respond to you, pretty much regardless of my tone, you go for the goddamn throat. I’ve quite literally come to the conclusion that you’re incapable of arguing without immediately dragging things down to the lowest common denominator. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/168 "2018-10-24T00:21:27Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Does this mean that your hypocritical bitching about how people talk to each other in The BBQ Pit is going to stop…for the brief time you have left here? I remember you as being smart and nice. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/169 "2018-10-24T01:01:44Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > Hey, all I know is the moment I respond to you, pretty much regardless of my tone, you go for the goddamn throat. I’ve quite literally come to the conclusion that you’re incapable of arguing without immediately dragging things down to the lowest common denominator. Sounds about right. And it’s funny to see how he doesn’t seem to realize so many people have him on ignore. Which reminds me, the more people have him on ignore, the less chance there is someone will quote his nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/170 "2018-10-24T01:30:18Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > Hey, all I know is the moment I respond to you, pretty much regardless of my tone, you go for the goddamn throat. I’ve quite literally come to the conclusion that you’re incapable of arguing without immediately dragging things down to the lowest common denominator. Not at all. Iirc, in one of my other Pit threads we had a nice conversation til I recommended you go to the gym. Well, it’s been downhill ever since! ☹ Are you proposing a peace treaty? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/171 "2018-10-24T02:32:32Z")
Do you even read what you write? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/172 "2018-10-24T02:35:54Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Do you even read what you write? I often do. And it usually makes sense. Why do you ask? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/173 "2018-10-24T02:44:50Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > I remember you as being smart and nice. And I remember you as being the guy with the funny stories. Now you pop in and defend shitty people, praise Donald Trump for destroying PC (even though you cant define what that means) and spout right wing talking points about intersectionality. Czarcasm snarkily called you an asshole because you were being a snarky asshole. Now you’re shitting on him in other threads. Grow the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/174 "2018-10-24T07:57:39Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I often do. And it usually makes sense. Why do you ask? What kind of ratio are you proposing? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/175 "2018-10-24T10:33:30Z")
Why _shouldn’t_ you answer every question with a question? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/176 "2018-10-24T11:42:06Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And I remember you as being the guy with the funny stories. Now you pop in and defend shitty people, praise Donald Trump for destroying PC (even though you cant define what that means) and spout right wing talking points about intersectionslism 1. Who’s “shitty people?” People you disagree with? 2. Yes. I hate PC. I did define it. It’s incompatible with a free society. 3. Identity politics and intersectionalism are pure racism. I don’t tolerate it. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/177 "2018-10-24T17:56:54Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > 1. Who’s “shitty people?” People you disagree with? > > 2. Yes. I hate PC. I did define it. It’s incompatible with a free society. > > 3. Identity politics and intersectionalism are pure racism. I don’t tolerate it. There is a thread where you were invited to give examples of PC, but you couldn’t come up with any examples. You are full of it. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/178 "2018-10-24T19:52:43Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > There is a thread where you were invited to give examples of PC, but you couldn’t come up with any examples. You are full of it. No one could come up with examples that were anything beyond “meh.” I think we can conclude that PC is not an issues. At all. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/179 "2018-10-24T20:27:59Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Not at all. Iirc, in one of my other Pit threads we had a nice conversation til I recommended you go to the gym. Well, it’s been downhill ever since! ☹ > > Are you proposing a peace treaty? I’ll tell you a dirty little secret - I don’t cache conversations. Even when I have noticed a particular person enough to associate a particular posting style with them, the memory of prior conversations never colors the current one, at least as far as I’m concerned. What this means in practical terms I that I’m _always_ honoring a truce - I quite literally never drag crap from one thread into another. If I’m calling you out on being shitty, it’s because you’re acting shitty _right there_, in the thread I say it in. So if you are in a thread playing nice and inviting no censure, then all my responses to you will be civil. One thing I do do, though, is call you out for being shitty to people that aren’t me. Which to be frank happens a lot. In fact it usually seems to be the bulk of your posts - being shitty to people. If the majority of my posts to you aren’t complimentary, it’s because you leave a lot of shit around for me to respond to, to the point that I can hardly remember you posting anything else anymore. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098/180 "2018-10-24T20:34:24Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > No one could come up with examples that were anything beyond “meh.” I think we can conclude that PC is not an issues. At all. To be fair, horrible racists and bigots and misogynists probably feel legitimately outraged by political correctness, but could quite reasonably not want to post examples in that thread because of the predictable lack of support they’d get. Which is not to say **Scylla** ’s a horrible racist - I don’t know if they are or not. Their comment about thinking it’s incompatible with “a free society” does betray a gross misconception of what freedom is - in a truly free society people are free to call you out on your shit. Unless “free society” is a codeword for something more sinister of course. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/octopus-is-having-a-meltdown/822098.md?page=10)