# Odd Man Out **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 13, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277 "2016-06-13T18:58:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/42 "2016-06-15T19:26:18Z")
> [@bibliophage](#): > > George Lazenby was preceded and succeeded by Sean Connery in the role of James Bond. > > Conan O’Brien was preceded and succeeded by Jay Leno as the host of the Tonight Show > > Benjamin Harrison was preceded and succeeded by Grover Cleveland as President of the U.S. > > Sarah Chalke was preceded and succeeded by Lecy Goranson in the role of Becky Conner (on _Roseanne_) > > Diana Muldaur was preceded and succeeded by Gates McFadden in the role of the chief medical officer of the Enterprise (_Star Trek: The Next Generation_) > > Pope Pius XII is the odd man out. Exactly right! Well done. I hadn’t thought of Sarah Chalke and Diana Muldaur until yesterday. I wasn’t sure about Chalke; I wasn’t a _Roseanne_ watcher and from what I could find online it sounded like she shared the role with Goranson in the last couple seasons. And Muldaur is a bit of a fudge, since she didn’t play the same character as McFadden. The only other name I could possibly add would be Hugh Downs. In 1960, Jack Paar walked out as host of _The Tonight Show_ to protest when a joke of his was censored. He came back about a month later. Downs was host during the interim, but that isn’t terribly well known, and the question is hard enough already. ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/43 "2016-06-15T19:40:58Z")
Charles I of England Constantine the Great Frederick the Great Nicholas II of Russia Olaf II of Norway Stephen I of Hungary ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/44 "2016-06-15T20:42:58Z")
> [@bibliophage](#): > > Charles I of England > Constantine the Great > Frederick the Great > Nicholas II of Russia > Olaf II of Norway > Stephen I of Hungary **Constantine the Great** is the only one on the list whose reign was immediately followed by that of one of his legitimate sons. (Olaf’s son Magnus succeeded him but was illegitimate. Charles had two sons who became King, but they had to wait for the Cromwell reign to play out.) ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/45 "2016-06-15T22:07:29Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Alaska, California, Hawaii & Louisiana are coastal; Minnesota is not. Minnesota is the only state that doesn’t have a second language, although I can’t quite get my slogan together, so I’m not sure I’m on the right track, and at any rate, the Spanish that is common in CA isn’t specific to California, even though it was very common there when California became a state. Anyway, has it got anything to do with languages, dialects, or ethnicities? ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/46 "2016-06-16T02:08:40Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > **Constantine the Great** is the only one on the list whose reign was immediately followed by that of one of his legitimate sons. You are correct as far as I can tell, but that’s not what I had in mind. ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/47 "2016-06-16T02:17:03Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Minnesota is the only state that doesn’t have a second language, although I can’t quite get my slogan together, so I’m not sure I’m on the right track, and at any rate, the Spanish that is common in CA isn’t specific to California, even though it was very common there when California became a state. > > Anyway, has it got anything to do with languages, dialects, or ethnicities? What I had in mind has nothing to do with language or ethnicity. But now that you mention it, I have to admit that Hawaii is the only one whose motto is not in an Indo-European language and the only one in which the white/Caucasian population is a minority. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/48 "2016-06-16T03:30:47Z")
> [@bibliophage](#): > > I have to admit that Hawaii is the only one whose […] white/Caucasian population is a minority. (for now…) ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/49 "2016-06-16T05:19:41Z")
> [@bibliophage](#): > > You are correct as far as I can tell, but that’s not what I had in mind. I didn’t think so — but having invested the effort to check those results, I had to post. :rolleyes: > [@bibliophage](#): > > Alaska > California > Hawaii > Louisiana > Minnesota The same thing happened to me more. California is the largest state by population; Alaska is the largest state by area; Minnesota has the most lakes. Am I close? So which lacks any superlative? Hawaii, among other superlatives, is the newest state. I’ll guess **Louisiana** , though it has the highest sales tax. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/50 "2016-06-16T13:50:14Z")
It has to do with historical events but nothing to do with the Civil War. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/51 "2016-06-16T15:14:10Z")
**Louisiana.** The Admission of each of the other four states on the list led to a new flag authorization by Congress, with one more star than the previous flag. Louisiana, however, was bundled with four other new states to get a 20-star flag — all prior flags had 13 or 15 stars. ETA: I strongly doubt that this is the intended answer either. :o ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/52 "2016-06-16T19:27:59Z")
> [@bibliophage](#): > > Alaska > California > Hawaii > Louisiana > Minnesota > > Hint: it has nothing to do with the spelling or pronunciation of the names and it has nothing to do with what their capitals are. Hawaii was not purchased? ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/53 "2016-06-16T21:49:02Z")
Hawaii never had a US Congressman killed in a plane crash. Pettis, Wellstone, Boggs, Stevens.) ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/54 "2016-06-17T00:14:14Z")
That should be Begich of Alaska. Stevens was out of office at the time of his death. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Zox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Mr\_Zox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Zox)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/55 "2016-06-17T04:56:38Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > [Wikipedia is your friend.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston,_Lincolnshire) 🙂 > > I hope OP doesn’t object to lists longer than 4 or 5. Here’s one: > > Albert Camus > Albert Einstein > Franklin D. Roosevelt > George C. Marshall > Theodore Roosevelt > Winston Churchill > Woodrow Wilson Woodrow was his middle name; the others are known by their “real” first names. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Zox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Mr\_Zox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Zox)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/56 "2016-06-17T05:01:59Z")
> [@bibliophage](#): > > Charles I of England > Constantine the Great > Frederick the Great > Nicholas II of Russia > Olaf II of Norway > Stephen I of Hungary Stephen is the only one to be officially declared a saint. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Zox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Mr\_Zox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Zox)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/57 "2016-06-17T05:05:21Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > **Vancouver** is the only one that doesn’t name a city in Eurasia. > > Aluminum, Iron, Oxygen, Silicon, Tin. > [Lists of seven or so may work better than shorter lists. Are they OK?] Oxygen is the only one not a solid at standard temperature and pressure. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Zox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Mr\_Zox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Zox)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/58 "2016-06-17T05:12:22Z")
> [@bibliophage](#): > > Alaska > California > Hawaii > Louisiana > Minnesota > > Hint: it has nothing to do with the spelling or pronunciation of the names and it has nothing to do with what their capitals are. California is the only one that was never a territory. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/59 "2016-06-17T10:13:47Z")
[QUOTE=Mr Zox] [ul][li]Woodrow was his middle name; the others are known by their “real” first names.[/li][li]Stephen is the only one to be officially declared a saint.[/li][li]Oxygen is the only one not a solid at standard temperature and pressure.[/li][li]California is the only one that was never a territory.[/ul][/li][/QUOTE] All excellent answers, **Mr Zox**! I’ll guess your California.not.Territory answer is indeed the intended answer — it’s much better than either solution I came up with. I’m doubtful about Stephen, however. OP calls for a property all but one have; a negative property (“not being a Saint”) may be counter to the spirit. Woodrow is a good answer but my intended answer was already given by **bibliophage**. Finally, oxygen is an excellent answer but again not my intended answer. But all three answers given for that list are much better than my intended answer. :o (Hint: Tin was my intended answer, and not simply for having the largest atomic number though that’s an indirect hint.) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Here’s a new list. James Buchanan John C. Calhoun Henry Clay Thomas Jefferson George C. Marshall William J. McKinley Daniel Webster ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/60 "2016-06-17T18:19:19Z")
Here’s another, relatively easy, to work on simultaneously. In this list, there are at least four good justifiable different odd men out. See how many you can get: Cadillac El Dorado Chevy Malibu Chrysler Imperial GMC Sonoma Mercury Monterey Sunbeam Alpine ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/61 "2016-06-17T20:16:03Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Here’s a new list. > > James Buchanan > John C. Calhoun > Henry Clay > Thomas Jefferson > George C. Marshall > William J. McKinley > Daniel Webster Webster lost the only election he ran in. All the others were eventually elected to either president or vice president of the US. > [@jtur88](#): > > Here’s another, relatively easy, to work on simultaneously. In this list, there are at least four good justifiable different odd men out. See how many you can get: > > Cadillac El Dorado > Chevy Malibu > Chrysler Imperial > GMC Sonoma > Mercury Monterey > Sunbeam Alpine Well, the Sonoma is a truck (it’s the S-10) while the others are all cars. I almost said the Alpine is the only two-seater, but I suppose technically the Sonoma is a two-seater, or at least, a non-backseater, because it doesn’t have an extended cab. I’m thinking there might be something about the names, like all of the but one were called something else for the Canadian market. Also, I didn’t bother to check, but the Imperial may have had the longest production gap of any American car. It was first produced in the teens, and then ceased production in the 30s, only to start up again in the 90s. Is the Imperial the only one of the group that had a production gap? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277.md?page=4)