# Odd Man Out **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 13, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277 "2016-06-13T18:58:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/82 "2016-06-20T00:27:47Z")
Had US Mints, except Boston. Dahlonega gave it away. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/83 "2016-06-20T00:30:18Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Carson City, Nevada > Denver, Colorado > West Point, New York > Boston, Massachusetts > Philadelphia, Pennsylvania > New Orleans, Louisiana > Dahlonega, Georgia > Charlotte, North Carolina **Boston** Each of the other cities was the site of a past or present U.S. mint. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/84 "2016-06-20T01:28:51Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > **Boston** > Each of the other cities was the site of a past or present U.S. mint. I figured if there were coin collectors, it’d be a gimme, but otherwise, it might be a little tough. This is still in play: > [@](#): > > Here’s one with an easy answer: > > Grease 2 > Love Letters > Desperately Seeking Susan > Real Genius > Children of a Lesser god > Ishtar > Big > The Prince of Tides > My Own Private Idaho > Wayne’s World ETA: It has nothing to do with most of them being 80s films, and just a couple being released other decades. If no one gets it in another couple of days, I’ll drop a big hint. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/85 "2016-06-20T03:17:55Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Grease 2 > Love Letters > Desperately Seeking Susan > Real Genius > Children of a Lesser god > Ishtar > Big > The Prince of Tides > My Own Private Idaho > Wayne’s World Could you double check that list? I thought I had the reason figured out, and it’s something that would be noteworthy, but there would be two odd men out. I thought it might be confusion between _Love Letters_ (1945), and _Love Letter_ (1995), but either of those still gives me the same problem. Oh, to hell with being coy about it, I’ll just spoiler box it:All of them were directed by women, except _My Own Private Idaho_ and _Love Letters_. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/86 "2016-06-20T04:50:32Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Could you double check that list? I thought I had the reason figured out, and it’s something that would be noteworthy, but there would be two odd men out. I thought it might be confusion between _Love Letters_ (1945), and _Love Letter_ (1995), but either of those still gives me the same problem. > > Oh, to hell with being coy about it, I’ll just spoiler box it:All of them were directed by women, except _My Own Private Idaho_ and _Love Letters_. There’s more than one movie called “Love Letters.” I thought by keeping all the movies from the same era, you’d get that I meant the one with Jamie Leigh Curtis from 1983, and not the 1945 movie with Joseph Cotten and Jennifer Jones. I thought about putting up the dates, but I didn’t want people to get hung up thinking the dates were significant. Amy Holden Jones, who also wrote the screenplay, directed the 1983 film. I should have just left it out, but I remember it as being a big film on the art circuit when it came out, so I thought people would remember it, and most people don’t know much about 1940s films (more’s the pity), plus, I was trying to get a variety, and not repeat any directors, and stick to US releases. Anyway, yeah: directed by women. _Except My Own Private Idaho_. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/87 "2016-06-20T05:09:40Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > There’s more than one movie called “Love Letters.” I thought by keeping all the movies from the same era, you’d get that I meant the one with Jamie Leigh Curtis from 1983, and not the 1945 movie with Joseph Cotten and Jennifer Jones. I thought about putting up the dates, but I didn’t want people to get hung up thinking the dates were significant. Amy Holden Jones, who also wrote the screenplay, directed the 1983 film. I should have just left it out, but I remember it as being a big film on the art circuit when it came out, so I thought people would remember it, and most people don’t know much about 1940s films (more’s the pity), plus, I was trying to get a variety, and not repeat any directors, and stick to US releases. I don’t remember the 1983 version. A web search only turned up the 1945, and then once I thought I had the answer I found the 1995 version. I should have figured there’s be another version too and kept looking. New question: Ferdinand Magellan Phileas Fogg Amelia Earhart John Glenn And the answer is not that Fogg is the only fictional character, or that Earhart is the only woman. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/88 "2016-06-20T06:16:03Z")
Since nobody’s guessed for a few days, I might as well drop what I was going for… > [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Batman: Arkham Asylum > Final Fantasy > Life is Strange > Tomb Raider > Saints Row > [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > It’s nothing intrinsic to any of the games. > > In fact, adding Gangan Comics to the list doesn’t change the theme as formulated. The odd man out is Saints Row, and the connection is ‘Published by SquareEnix’. The ‘installments that don’t count’ is Tomb Raider, which had the original series published before SquareEnix bought Eidos. Final Fantasy and Gangan Comics don’t fit this, because Squaresoft and Enix count as the same company as SquareEnix, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/89 "2016-06-20T06:26:10Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Ferdinand Magellan > Phileas Fogg > Amelia Earhart > John Glenn An obvious answer popped into my head with Earhart as the Out, but _Magellan is also Out._ ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/90 "2016-06-20T07:17:58Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > An obvious answer popped into my head with Earhart as the Out, but _Magellan is also Out._ Neither Magellan nor Earhart finished their circumnavigation; is that what you were thinking of? (When I first thought of this question, I did a little research. I would swear I read somewhere online that Magellan may have been the first person to cross all lines of longitude. Can’t find anything to back that up now. In any case, that’s not the answer I was going for either.) ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/91 "2016-06-20T11:52:38Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Ferdinand Magellan > Phileas Fogg > Amelia Earhart > John Glenn All of them circumnavigated–or attempted to circumnavigate–the earth from west to east, except Magellan whose journey was east-to-west. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/92 "2016-06-20T12:15:20Z")
> [@bibliophage](#): > > All of them circumnavigated–or attempted to circumnavigate–the earth from west to east, except Magellan whose journey was east-to-west. Correct. I’ve asked this question in other places and it usually takes much longer, and a few hints, to get the answer. I find it somewhat interesting that lots of people know they all went around the world (or tried to), but almost no one knows such details as which direction they went. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/93 "2016-06-20T13:23:27Z")
This is still in play: > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by RivkahChaya View Post > Anita Gillette > Jennifer Jason Leigh > Alyson Reed > Liza Minnelli > Jill Haworth (There’s an answer other than “Liza Minnelli was in a movie,” that’s a little more obscure, but also a little more definitive.) And I’m waiting for an answer from Bibliophage on the world leaders whose final rest was disturbed (I think). Other than that, we need some more lists! ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/94 "2016-06-20T13:34:54Z")
Ferdinand Magellan Phileas Fogg Amelia Earhart John Glenn Any one works, in at lest one way:. Magellan couldn’t speak English, and never got above sea level. Phogg was fictional Earhart was female, and didn’t make it around the world. Glenn did it without touching the earth, nor did he plan his trip or control his own transportation, or pay any part of his own way. As for the east-west, any random selection of four travelers would have a 50% chance of having exactly one who went one way, and three the other, so not a noteworthy distinction. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/95 "2016-06-20T14:02:23Z")
> [@jtur88](#): > > Ferdinand Magellan > Phileas Fogg > Amelia Earhart > John Glenn > > Any one works, in at lest one way:. > > Magellan couldn’t speak English, and never got above sea level. > Phogg was fictional > Earhart was female, and didn’t make it around the world. > Glenn did it without touching the earth, nor did he plan his trip or control his own transportation, or pay any part of his own way. > > As for the east-west, any random selection of four travelers would have a 50% chance of having exactly one who went one way, and three the other, so not a noteworthy distinction. You can always find something to justify any answer to these types of questions, like one of the choices is the only one with an odd number of letters. I think it’s a generally accepted rule that in a list of four people who were all famous for circumnavigating the globe, the answer will have something to do with circumnavigating the globe. You also say that direction of travel is not a noteworthy distinction, but you think Earhart is a good answer because she’s the only woman? The chances for 3-men/1-woman are exactly the same as 3-eastbound/1-westbound, so I’m not sure why you think that’s a better answer. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/96 "2016-06-20T15:16:04Z")
Nobody has solved mine yet: Jethro Tull Motörhead Nine Inch Nails Queensrÿche Soundgarden ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/97 "2016-06-20T15:39:50Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > You also say that direction of travel is not a noteworthy distinction, but you think Earhart is a good answer because she’s the only woman? The chances for 3-men/1-woman are exactly the same as 3-eastbound/1-westbound, so I’m not sure why you think that’s a better answer. Partly. Eastbound and Westbound are two equally probable choices, so chances are approximately equal. But, if I gave you a list of five NBA referees including Violet Palmer, everybody would pick her as the odd man out. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/98 "2016-06-20T17:23:17Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I think it’s a generally accepted rule that in a list of four people who were all famous for circumnavigating the globe, the answer will have something to do with circumnavigating the globe. This is a pretty cool answer: > [@](#): > > Glenn did it without touching the earth ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/99 "2016-06-20T17:37:00Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Nobody has solved mine yet: > > Jethro Tull > Motörhead > Nine Inch Nails > Queensrÿche > Soundgarden Nine Inch Nails is the only band with three words as its name. ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/100 "2016-06-20T17:37:56Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > And I’m waiting for an answer from Bibliophage on the world leaders whose final rest was disturbed (I think). That was not the answer I had in mind. Hint: It has to do with religion. ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/101 "2016-06-20T17:53:22Z")
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