# Odd Man Out

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 13, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277 "2016-06-13T18:58:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr\_Zox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Mr\_Zox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Zox)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/142 "2016-06-28T21:51:45Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> The easy one is Elisabeth. the only one that’s primarily a female name.
> 
> Harder: Michael’s the only one that hasn’t been used by a monarch who reigned over Scotland. (Though Elizabeth II was never actually queen of Scotland as a separate crown as such, and Elizabeth I was never ruler of Scotland, at all…and it’s also spelt differently, so I suspect that’s not what you’re going for)…

This is close to what I thought of, which is that no monarch in Great Britain has been named Michael.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/143 "2016-06-28T23:07:33Z")

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Burt Lancaster  
Clint Eastwood  
Tim Robbins  
Sean Connery

I have two possible answers in mind.

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/144 "2016-06-29T05:58:18Z")

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Sean Connery is the only one not born in the United States.  
Burt Lancaster is the only one not alive.  
Clint Eastwood is the only one who hasn’t won an Academy Award in an acting category.

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/145 "2016-06-29T06:06:57Z")

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Tim Robbins is the only one who doesn’t appear on AFI’s list of [100 Heroes and Villains](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI%27s_100_Years...100_Heroes_%26_Villains). Eastwood and Connery show up as heroes (Dirty Harry and James Bond) and Lancaster shows up as a villain (J. J. Hunsecker). Robbins doesn’t show up at all, though he was nominated for playing Andy Dufresne.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/146 "2016-06-29T07:30:15Z")

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> [@bibliophage](#):
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> Sean Connery is the only one not born in the United States.  
> Burt Lancaster is the only one not alive.  
> Clint Eastwood is the only one who hasn’t won an Academy Award in an acting category.

> [@bibliophage](#):
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> Tim Robbins is the only one who doesn’t appear on AFI’s list of [100 Heroes and Villains](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI%27s_100_Years...100_Heroes_%26_Villains). Eastwood and Connery show up as heroes (Dirty Harry and James Bond) and Lancaster shows up as a villain (J. J. Hunsecker). Robbins doesn’t show up at all, though he was nominated for playing Andy Dufresne.

Interesting, but those were neither of the answers I had in mind. It’s something much more specific; seems like you’ll know it when you see it. You were on the right track at the end.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/147 "2016-06-29T10:43:43Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I’ll be damned. I’ve never seen on of those, and they were minted until '63. I used to see Kennedy half-dollars when I was young. Either there weren’t many Franklins or they stopped circulating pretty quickly.

Franklin halves were very much in circulation prior to 1964. Then the Kennedys replaced them, followed by discontinuation of silver coinage . . . resulting in Franklins disappearing from circulation PDQ.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/148 "2016-06-29T21:22:59Z")

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Here’s an interesting set:

Hedy Lamarr  
Lana Turner  
Dolores del Río  
Marlene Dietrich  
Greta Garbo  
Paulette Goddard.

The answer has nothing to do with their nationality – all six are from different countries.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/149 "2016-06-30T01:51:12Z")

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Greta Garbo was the only one who wanted to be alone. Hedy Lamarr was the only one who was also a renowned inventor.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/150 "2016-06-30T03:53:59Z")

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Stevie Wonder  
Josh Groban  
Andrea Bocelli  
Elvis Presley  
Babyface  
Jason Gould  
Lionel Richie

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/151 "2016-06-30T05:08:13Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Greta Garbo was the only one who wanted to be alone. Hedy Lamarr was the only one who was also a renowned inventor.

It’s supposed to be something that all the others have in common, not something that one of them has that is unique. Like, you can’t say “Lana Turner is the only one whose initials are LT”.

The answer to this one is given away in a current post in another game in the Thread Games subforum.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/152 "2016-06-30T06:21:48Z")

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Four of the six women were described as superlatively beautiful. Not just “one of the more beautiful actresses in Hollywood” but true superlatives. For example Hedy Lamarr was called “the most beautiful woman in Europe” and later was known as “the most beautiful woman in the world.” The Guinness Book of World Records shows Greta Garbo as the “most beautiful woman who ever lived.” Marlene Dietrich held several superlatives including “had the most beautiful legs of all time” but Miss Dietrich herself called Dolores del Río “the most beautiful woman in Hollywood.”

The problem with this solution is that neither Lana Turner nor Paulette Goddard was notably homely. Miss Turner appears on the list of 20 most beautiful actresses from the classics, and one fan names his YouTube tribute to Miss Goddard “The Most Beautiful Movie Star.”

So I was going to go with **Dolores del Río** – all the others were _either_ nominated for an Oscar _or_ appear in the National Inventors Hall of Fame. (Miss Lamarr, BTW, had several inventions other than her famous radar anti-jamming method.)

> [@jtur88](#):
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> The answer to this one is given away in a current post in another game in the Thread Games subforum.

I peeked. 😛 I thought it might be something like that, but felt it might be tedious to unravel.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/153 "2016-06-30T06:39:56Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> Here’s an interesting set:
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> Hedy Lamarr  
> Lana Turner  
> Dolores del Río  
> Marlene Dietrich  
> Greta Garbo  
> Paulette Goddard.
> 
> The answer has nothing to do with their nationality – all six are from different countries.

Garbo is the only one who never married. Dietrich married once, the rest multiple times.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/154 "2016-06-30T10:56:45Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Garbo is the only one who never married. Dietrich married once, the rest multiple times.

I’m thinking it may have to do with how their acting careers had begun. Like how many had been on stage, or in silents?

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/155 "2016-06-30T13:31:12Z")

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Since this is one you would never get unless you stumbled across the list, here’s the answer:

All except Lana Turner were openly known to have had an affair with German author Erich Maria Remarque (“All Quiet on the Western Front”).

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/156 "2016-06-30T14:08:52Z")

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This one should be straightforward. :rolleyes:

Catherine Carey  
Edward of Woodstock ‘the Black Prince’  
James Stuart ‘the Old Pretender’  
John of Gaunt  
King Henry VIII  
Queen Victoria  
Victoria Adelaide Mary Louisa, German Empress

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/157 "2016-06-30T15:09:02Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> Ferdinand Magellan  
> Phileas Fogg  
> Amelia Earhart  
> John Glenn
> 
> Any one works, in at lest one way:.
> 
> Magellan couldn’t speak English, and never got above sea level.  
> Phogg was fictional  
> Earhart was female, and didn’t make it around the world.  
> Glenn did it without touching the earth, nor did he plan his trip or control his own transportation, or pay any part of his own way.

Glenn is the only one that went around more than once.

In two senses. On his first trip (1962) he made three orbits before returning.

He returned to space in 1998, the oldest man in space. I’m presuming STS-95 orbited multiple times, but I’m not certain.

All the others did it only once.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/158 "2016-06-30T17:37:50Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> All the others did it only once.

Or not at all.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/159 "2016-07-01T17:07:54Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Burt Lancaster  
> Clint Eastwood  
> Tim Robbins  
> Sean Connery
> 
> I have two possible answers in mind.

Time for a hint, I suppose. **bibliophage** was on the right track when he mentioned that Robbins played Andy Dufresne. That character is relevant to the answer.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/160 "2016-07-01T19:05:32Z")

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Ahhh.

Four movies about prison, all but one about Alcatraz.

Burt Lancaster was The Birdman of Alcatraz.  
Sean Connery was in The Rock.  
Clint Eastwood was in Escape from Alcatraz.  
Tim Robbins was in Shawshank Redemption.

OR

With the same 4 movies, they all escaped from prison except Burt Lancaster? The Rock was not about the escape, but Sean Connery had previously escaped from Alcatraz.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/161 "2016-07-01T19:47:49Z")

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> [@TexCat](#):
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> Ahhh.
> 
> Four movies about prison, all but one about Alcatraz.
> 
> Burt Lancaster was The Birdman of Alcatraz.  
> Sean Connery was in The Rock.  
> Clint Eastwood was in Escape from Alcatraz.  
> Tim Robbins was in Shawshank Redemption.

Yes, and not only about Alcatraz, but with Alcatraz (or its nickname) in the title. Could have used Ed Harris or Nicholas Cage from _The Rock_, but Connery’s character was the one who’d actually been a prisoner there, so I went with that.

Clint Eastwood went to Alcatraz twice, in _Escape From Alcatraz_ and at the end of _The Enforcer_ (the third in the _Dirty Harry_ series). Never could quite turn that into a trivia question, but it is interesting.

> [@](#):
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> OR
> 
> With the same 4 movies, they all escaped from prison except Burt Lancaster? The Rock was not about the escape, but Sean Connery had previously escaped from Alcatraz.

And that’s the other answer I had in mind. Well done.

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