# Odd Man Out **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 13, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277 "2016-06-13T18:58:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/162 "2016-07-01T20:20:24Z")
Another one with movie actors: Robert Redford Ronald Reagan William Bendix Anthony Perkins Ray Liotta Dan Dailey Jimmy Stewart Gary Cooper ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/163 "2016-07-06T21:43:40Z")
Gary Cooper was Lou Gherig in _The Pride of the Yankees_ Jimmy Stewart was Monty Statton in _The Stratton Story_ Anthony Perkins was Jim Piersall in _Fear Strikes Out_ Ray Liotta was Shoeless Joe Jackson in \*A Field of Dreams \* William Bendix was Babe Ruth in _The Babe Ruth Story_ Dan Dailey was Dizzy Dean in _The Pride of St. Louis \* Ronald Reagon was Grover Cleveland Alexander in The Winning Team \* and Robert Redford was Roy Hobbs in The Natural_, the only fictional character ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/164 "2016-07-06T21:54:11Z")
Correct. The only fictional baseball player role. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/165 "2016-07-19T01:15:43Z")
I didn’t see any recent ones still outstanding, so here’s one I think will be pretty easy, but I’ve thought that before… Family Affair Chico and the Man Mork and Mindy Suddenly Susan South Park Judging Amy Rizzoli & Isles ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/166 "2016-07-22T03:35:27Z")
Gone With the Wind To Kill a Mockingbird Catch-22 2001: A Space Odyssey Hint: The answer has nothing to do with movies. > [@RivkahChaya](#): > > I didn’t see any recent ones still outstanding, so here’s one I think will be pretty easy, but I’ve thought that before… Didn’t notice the thread had been bumped. Let me work on this one for a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/167 "2016-07-22T04:01:49Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Family Affair > Chico and the Man > Mork and Mindy > Suddenly Susan > South Park > Judging Amy > Rizzoli & Isles Judging Amy It took a bit of memory and a bit of poking around on the web.[spoiler]All the others had cast members who committed suicide; Brian Keith (_Family Affair_), Freddie Prinze (_Chico and the Man_), Robin Williams (_Mork and Mindy_), David Strickland (_Suddenly Susan_), Mary Kay Bergman (_South Park_), and Lee Thompson Young (_Rizzoli & Isles_). Richard Crenna died during the run of _Judging Amy_, but from natural causes; perhaps that’s why you used it as the odd man out. I started by looking for actors who died while their show was still in production. That wasn’t it, but I knew I was on the right track.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/168 "2016-07-22T07:24:11Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Judging Amy > > It took a bit of memory and a bit of poking around on the web.[spoiler]All the others had cast members who committed suicide; Brian Keith (_Family Affair_), Freddie Prinze (_Chico and the Man_), Robin Williams (_Mork and Mindy_), David Strickland (_Suddenly Susan_), Mary Kay Bergman (_South Park_), and Lee Thompson Young (_Rizzoli & Isles_). Richard Crenna died during the run of _Judging Amy_, but from natural causes; perhaps that’s why you used it as the odd man out. > > I started by looking for actors who died while their show was still in production. That wasn’t it, but I knew I was on the right track.[/spoiler] Yup. The red herring was _Family Affair_, because most people don’t know that Brian Keith died a suicide-- he was in the last stages of a painful cancer-- but they do remember Anissa Jones’ death, which was considered a possible suicide at the time, was eventually ruled accidental. I used a similar question for something else once before, and immediately had people arguing with me that Anissa Jones wasn’t a suicide. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/169 "2016-07-22T07:49:10Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Yup. The red herring was _Family Affair_, because most people don’t know that Brian Keith died a suicide-- he was in the last stages of a painful cancer-- but they do remember Anissa Jones’ death, which was considered a possible suicide at the time, was eventually ruled accidental. I used a similar question for something else once before, and immediately had people arguing with me that Anissa Jones wasn’t a suicide. [spoiler]Yeah, I started down that alley. Knew one of the kids from that show had died young, but didn’t remember the details. That wasn’t the red herring for me, though. I knew a few of them had lost cast members during their run, so I was poking around IMDb bios to see if any of the other shows had too. The aha moment was to think years after the shows had ended. I had it narrowed down to _Family Affair_ and _Judging Amy_, and I was composing a reply that said as much, then I remembered Brian Keith.[/spoiler]Excellent question; one of those where when you get the right answer you know it. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/170 "2016-07-26T02:44:24Z")
This one will probably be tough, but when you get it, you know you’ll have it. It’s very clear cut, and no, “this one sort of did this, which was kind of like that.” If no one gets it in 24 hours, I’ll provide a hint. Doris Day Jodie Foster Kathryn Grayson Anne Heche Holly Hunter Deborah Kerr Maria Schell Jane Wyman Actually, here’s a small hint: fans of 1930s movies have an advantage. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/171 "2016-07-26T23:11:37Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > This one will probably be tough, but when you get it, you know you’ll have it. It’s very clear cut, and no, “this one sort of did this, which was kind of like that.” If no one gets it in 24 hours, I’ll provide a hint. > > Doris Day > Jodie Foster > Kathryn Grayson > Anne Heche > Holly Hunter > Deborah Kerr > Maria Schell > Jane Wyman > > Actually, here’s a small hint: fans of 1930s movies have an advantage. It hasn’t been quite 24 hours, but here’s the hint: “I’ll see you in my dreams.” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/172 "2016-07-27T01:17:37Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Gone With the Wind > To Kill a Mockingbird > Catch-22 > 2001: A Space Odyssey This one probably needs another hint. The answer has to do with books, but is not in any of those books. And a new one, should be easy: The Tacoma Narrows Bridge Graham Kerr The Hambletonian Stakes Red Grange ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/173 "2016-07-27T01:50:45Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Gone With the Wind > To Kill a Mockingbird > Catch-22 > 2001: A Space Odyssey > > Hint: The answer has nothing to do with movies. > Didn’t notice the thread had been bumped. Let me work on this one for a bit. Does it have anything to do with the titles? Most of these books weren’t published under the author’s original suggestion, IIRC. Harper Lee wanted to call _To Kill a Mockingbird_ “Atticus,” but the publisher said it was a mistake to focus too much on one person. Margaret Mitchell wanted to call _Gone with the Wind_ “Tomorrow is Another Day,” the book’s last line, and it went through several titles before settling on GWTW. _Catch-22_ was “Catch-11,” but _Ocean’s 11_ had just come out, and the publisher wanted to avoid confusion. I don’t know about _2001_. Maybe that’s the odd one out, in getting the author’s original title. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/174 "2016-07-27T02:54:43Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Does it have anything to do with the titles? Most of these books weren’t published under the author’s original suggestion, IIRC. Harper Lee wanted to call _To Kill a Mockingbird_ “Atticus,” but the publisher said it was a mistake to focus too much on one person. Margaret Mitchell wanted to call _Gone with the Wind_ “Tomorrow is Another Day,” the book’s last line, and it went through several titles before settling on GWTW. _Catch-22_ was “Catch-11,” but _Ocean’s 11_ had just come out, and the publisher wanted to avoid confusion. I don’t know about _2001_. Maybe that’s the odd one out, in getting the author’s original title. Not what I had in mind, but quite interesting. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/175 "2016-07-27T03:36:33Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Not what I had in mind, but quite interesting. Does the answer have anything to do with the titles at all? ETA: I mean, there’s obvious, stupid stuff, like _2001_ is the only one set in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/176 "2016-07-27T04:00:36Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Does the answer have anything to do with the titles at all? The answer has nothing to do with the titles. I can’t really think of a better hint than what I’ve already given. I’ll keep trying. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/177 "2016-07-27T05:38:10Z")
The answer has nothing to do with the content of the books, or the titles, or the movies. Is it the format? Was GWTW the only one originally published in hardback? Were the others originally issued as paperbacks, or something like that? ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/178 "2016-07-27T05:44:43Z")
OK. GWTW is the Odd One Out. All the books had sequels written decades after the original, but Margaret Mitchell, being mercifully dead, knew nothing of the sequel to GWTW. The other sequels were all written by the authors of the original works. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/179 "2016-07-27T05:53:14Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > And a new one, should be easy: > > The Tacoma Narrows Bridge > Graham Kerr > The Hambletonian Stakes > Red Grange **The Tacoma Narrows Bridge** – Galloping Gertie **Graham Kerr** – The Galloping Gourmet **The Hambletonian Stakes** – The Father of American Trotters **Red Grange** – The Galloping Ghost ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/180 "2016-07-27T10:37:32Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > All the books had sequels written decades after the original, but Margaret Mitchell, being mercifully dead, knew nothing of the sequel to GWTW. The other sequels were all written by the authors of the original works. Correct. When I thought of this question and did a little research, I discovered that there are two sequels to _Gone With the Wind_; _Scarlett_, done without the blessing of Mitchell’s estate, and _Rhett Butler’s People_, which was authorized. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277/181 "2016-07-27T13:23:48Z")
Bumping this: Doris Day Jodie Foster Kathryn Grayson Anne Heche Holly Hunter Deborah Kerr Maria Schell Jane Wyman Hint 1: fans of 1930s movies have an advantage. Hint 2: “I’ll see you in my dreams.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-man-out/757277.md?page=10)