# odd sex questions that starts with some sort of complaint about previous threads (edited title) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 22, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242 "2015-04-22T00:53:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/41 "2015-04-23T17:30:16Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > Yeah, I did suspect that. I think the pleasure component does have a role in sex: to not make sex painful. The main “point” of sex being pleasurable should be obvious – creatures (including humans) wouldn’t do it if it didn’t feel good. Animals, including humans (most of the time), don’t have sex to reproduce – they have sex _because it feels good_. > [@](#): > > If you have ever seen feline mating behavior, you would notice that feline sex is extremely painful for the female cats. You’ll have to provide a cite for this – why would a female cat consent to mating, and not run away, if it were painful? Animals (and most humans, for that matter) react to pain by trying to flee or fighting back if the pain is caused by another creature. ---
**Author:** ![Umbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Umbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbridge)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/42 "2015-04-23T17:38:25Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > You’ll have to provide a cite for this – why would a female cat consent to mating, and not run away, if it were painful? Animals (and most humans, for that matter) react to pain by trying to flee or fighting back if the pain is caused by another creature. Google “male cat penis spines” or “male cat penis barbs”. That will explain why the female cat can’t move away despite the pain. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/43 "2015-04-23T17:41:14Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > Google “male cat penis spines” or “male cat penis barbs”. That will explain why the female cat can’t move away despite the pain. I know about the barbs – but female cats still _want to mate_, and from what I can tell, they enjoy mating (and even consent to do it again shortly after the first time!). It’s the ending (the withdrawal) that is painful, but not so much that female cats don’t often want to mate again shortly after the first time (or second time or more). So it’s false to say that mating is painful for female cats – it appears to be very pleasurable… and pleasurable enough that even after the painful withdrawal, due to the spines, they still want to do it again after a recovery period. As a rule, animals won’t allow something painful to happen to them without resisting unless they are well trained (or highly conditioned). ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/44 "2015-04-23T17:43:43Z")
There’s actually a LOT of debate about whether the penile spines cause the females pain, though I’ve never seen any claim that it applies to the actual intercourse, rather than the moment of extraction. ---
**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/45 "2015-04-23T17:44:04Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > Thrusting is generally a behavior that men do. As far as I know, the woman does not have to do anything during sex but stay still. Glad to know you didn’t read my responses in your other thread. Had you read what I said, you would know this now. And my response was a clarification to your response to another poster who also confirmed that women move. So even though you replied to him, you didn’t read what he wrote either? On treating things without equal consideration… ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/46 "2015-04-23T17:48:42Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > Google “male cat penis spines” or “male cat penis barbs”. That will explain why the female cat can’t move away despite the pain. It’s worth noting that most male humans do not have this particular anatomical feature. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/47 "2015-04-23T17:52:38Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > Google “male cat penis spines” or “male cat penis barbs”. That will explain why the female cat can’t move away despite the pain. So now we’re up to “a cucumber” with grappling hooks? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/48 "2015-04-23T17:56:48Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > So now we’re up to “a cucumber” with grappling hooks? Why do these threads always end up being about me? ---
**Author:** ![Umbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Umbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbridge)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/49 "2015-04-23T19:48:40Z")
> [@dracoi](#): > > Glad to know you didn’t read my responses in your other thread. Had you read what I said, you would know this now. And my response was a clarification to your response to another poster who also confirmed that women move. So even though you replied to him, you didn’t read what he wrote either? > > On treating things without equal consideration… I think that discussion was referring to manual sex, not vaginal sex. During vaginal sex in the missionary sex position, the female does not move, because the man’s weight would press against the woman’s body. Earlier in this thread, I have mentioned the female pelvic thrust, so you can tell I did not forget what you said in the other thread. Anyway, since there is a female pelvic thrust, it must only occur during manual sex or by manual stimulation of the genitals. During vaginal sex in the missionary position, the man’s weight would have prevented such movement or rendered such movement, if it did occur, negligible. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/50 "2015-04-23T19:56:35Z")
If what you’re saying is correct, we’re doing it all wrong at my house. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Umbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Umbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbridge)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/51 "2015-04-23T19:57:13Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > There’s actually a LOT of debate about whether the penile spines cause the females pain, though I’ve never seen any claim that it applies to the actual intercourse, rather than the moment of extraction. I would have thought the extraction would be the end of the process of sexual intercourse. Hence part of intercourse. Compare this to the contraceptive withdrawal method in humans. It’s still part of the sex act. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/52 "2015-04-23T20:00:54Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > I think that discussion was referring to manual sex, not vaginal sex. During vaginal sex in the missionary sex position, the female does not move, because the man’s weight would press against the woman’s body. Earlier in this thread, I have mentioned the female pelvic thrust, so you can tell I did not forget what you said in the other thread. Anyway, since there is a female pelvic thrust, it must only occur during manual sex or by manual stimulation of the genitals. During vaginal sex in the missionary position, the man’s weight would have prevented such movement or rendered such movement, if it did occur, negligible. No, you’re missing something. You’ll have to take our word for it, I guess. The female can, and frequently does, move. ---
**Author:** ![Umbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Umbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbridge)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/53 "2015-04-23T20:02:40Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > If what you’re saying is correct, we’re doing it all wrong at my house. ☹ There are no correct or incorrect ways of copulation. There are just ways that are more likely or less likely to cause fertilization. Some people use different ways for different purposes. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/54 "2015-04-23T20:04:17Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > Anyway, since there is a female pelvic thrust, it must only occur during manual sex or by manual stimulation of the genitals. During vaginal sex in the missionary position, the man’s weight would have prevented such movement or rendered such movement, if it did occur, negligible. A gentleman leans on his elbows. You don’t get out much, do you? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/55 "2015-04-23T20:05:33Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > I think that discussion was referring to manual sex, not vaginal sex. **During vaginal sex in the missionary sex position, the female does not move, because the man’s weight would press against the woman’s body**. Earlier in this thread, I have mentioned the female pelvic thrust, so you can tell I did not forget what you said in the other thread. Anyway, since there is a female pelvic thrust, it must only occur during manual sex or by manual stimulation of the genitals. **During vaginal sex in the missionary position, the man’s weight would have prevented such movement or rendered such movement, if it did occur, negligible**. (bolding mine) WHY would you believe this? The man’s weight does NOT prevent such movement. The sooner you realize this, the better off you will be. Repeat, the man’s weight does NOT prevent “female pelvic thrust”, even during sex in the missionary position. Speaking as a man, if my partner is NOT doing the “female pelvic thrust” then I am doing something wrong. (not sure if someone already said ‘bandname!’ if not, I claim it) ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/56 "2015-04-23T20:07:23Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > … During vaginal sex in the missionary sex position, the female does not move… **shrug** If you say so. My experiences have differed somewhat in this regard. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/57 "2015-04-23T20:07:52Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > I would have thought the extraction would be the end of the process of sexual intercourse. Oh. no, there’s much more to it than that - mopping up, apologizing, filling out the police report. Lots of things. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Umbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Umbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbridge)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/58 "2015-04-23T20:09:14Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > No, you’re missing something. You’ll have to take our word for it, I guess. The female can, and frequently does, move. I assume you mean flexing ventrally… or perhaps you mean dorsiflexion? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/59 "2015-04-23T20:12:21Z")
Who told you about Doris? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Umbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Umbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbridge)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/60 "2015-04-23T20:16:34Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Who told you about Doris? > > Regards, > Shodan In layman’s terms, is the woman’s hip moving toward or away from the man in the female pelvic thrust during missionary sex? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242.md?page=4)