# odd sex questions that starts with some sort of complaint about previous threads (edited title) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 22, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242 "2015-04-22T00:53:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Umbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Umbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbridge)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/121 "2015-04-24T11:57:19Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Some people (most people, from my experience) have extremely strong sexual feelings and desires at some points in their lives. In my late teens and through most of my 20s, sex was a primary motivator and driver of nearly all major decisions I made – I’ll consider moving to this city and getting this job because I think that might help me find a sexual partner, etc. > > Also, for people who are into it (again, most people in my experience), sexual pleasure and intimacy is the greatest feeling ever. In a high school health class, we talked about our highest goals. One person said money, and there was an uproar of laughter. Quite a few people said a strong relationship with God. No one said sex. Actually, I don’t think sex was mentioned on the list. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/122 "2015-04-24T12:03:40Z")
Asexual, I agreee. No kidding! ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/123 "2015-04-24T12:09:55Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > In a high school health class, we talked about our highest goals. One person said money, and there was an uproar of laughter. Quite a few people said a strong relationship with God. No one said sex. Actually, I don’t think sex was mentioned on the list. Because high school kids are embarassed and confused about their sexual lives, and so they are unlikely to even joke about it in a class. Sex is not (and in my opinion should not) be a “highest goal” but it is an important part of the lives of many, many people. How old are you that a high-school event is still significant? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/124 "2015-04-24T12:10:38Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > In a high school health class, we talked about our highest goals. One person said money, and there was an uproar of laughter. Quite a few people said a strong relationship with God. No one said sex. Actually, I don’t think sex was mentioned on the list. I don’t think most high school kids are comfortable talking about their sexual desires in public. I definitely wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/125 "2015-04-24T12:10:46Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > In a high school health class, we talked about our highest goals. One person said money, and there was an uproar of laughter. Quite a few people said a strong relationship with God. No one said sex. Actually, I don’t think sex was mentioned on the list. That is because it is not a goal. It is just something that most people do. That would be like asking someone what their highest goal would be and noting that no one said “To eat supper.” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/126 "2015-04-24T12:13:06Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Waitaminute. Are you, in fact, a female of the species? > [@Umbridge](#): > > Yes. Oy. Okay, let me apologize for jumping to the conclusion that you were a puritanical and somewhat wilfully ignorant teenaged boy, and for responding accordingly. It’s probably best if I don’t simply replace one set of unwarranted assumptions with another, so why don’t you just tell us what’s on your mind. Are you afraid of having sex? The vibe you have been giving off suggests that while you expect and intend to reproduce, you’re a little resentful that sex is going to have to be involved at some point, and you’re trying to figure out how to manage the least amount of sex you can get away with. But don’t let me tell you your situation. Tell us yourself, and see if a straightforward conversation gets you the knowledge you’re seeking. It’s safe enough; nobody here knows you, so having the discussion isn’t likely to throw your real life into disarray. ---
**Author:** ![Umbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Umbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbridge)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/127 "2015-04-24T12:13:37Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Because high school kids are embarassed and confused about their sexual lives, and so they are unlikely to even joke about it in a class. > > Sex is not (and in my opinion should not) be a “highest goal” but it is an important part of the lives of many, many people. > > How old are you that a high-school event is still significant? Twenty-something. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/128 "2015-04-24T12:21:07Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > Twenty-something. It’s like pulling teeth. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/129 "2015-04-24T12:23:40Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > It’s like pulling teeth. Deliberately obtuse. I don’t have the patience, energy or interest to pursue. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/130 "2015-04-24T12:27:32Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > Yes, this is can be true for _copulation_ and also for _the walking 69_. If my partner and I are standing facing each other and I lift her up and turn her heels over head, setting her face on my manhood and mine in her hooha, I can then stimulate her orally as I walk around the house performing chores on a Saturday, presumably those from my _Honey Do List_, and all she need do is hang on for dear life. I should try this when doing household repairs. I would never forget where I put the screwdriver. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/131 "2015-04-24T12:31:33Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > Is this a joke? It’s not very funny. > > Thrusting is generally a behavior that men do. As far as I know, the woman does not have to do anything during sex but stay still. This is false. The woman doesn’t have to do anything only if the man is willing to do everything. It’s also true that the man doesn’t have to do anything if the woman is willing to do everything. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/132 "2015-04-24T12:38:32Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > Given that the thrusting behavior is controlled by the somatic nervous system, I speculate that a plausible explanation why some men report that they fail at impregnating their wives is they lack the critical knowledge to do the pelvic thrust voluntarily. Meanwhile, other men probably take the knowledge for granted and assume everyone knows it. This would mean that the men in question fail to ejaculate entirely. You think this is a frequent occurrence? Also, what about the woman in this situation? > [@](#): > > I have heard reports that women do the pelvic thrusting too. If that is true, then it’d be interesting to know what function the female “pelvic thrust” performs and how that may aid reproduction. It does exactly the same thing that male thrusting does—it increases pleasure for both parties and hastens ejaculation and orgasm for both parties. And you can actually see female thrusting on the internet. It’s not something you just have to hear reports about. ---
**Author:** ![Umbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Umbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbridge)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/133 "2015-04-24T12:41:19Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Oy. > > Okay, let me apologize for jumping to the conclusion that you were a puritanical and somewhat wilfully ignorant teenaged boy, and for responding accordingly. > > It’s probably best if I don’t simply replace one set of unwarranted assumptions with another, so why don’t you just tell us what’s on your mind. Are you afraid of having sex? The vibe you have been giving off suggests that while you expect and intend to reproduce, you’re a little resentful that sex is going to have to be involved at some point, and you’re trying to figure out how to manage the least amount of sex you can get away with. > > But don’t let me tell you your situation. Tell us yourself, and see if a straightforward conversation gets you the knowledge you’re seeking. It’s safe enough; nobody here knows you, so having the discussion isn’t likely to throw your real life into disarray. Actually, it’s not about me at all. It’s just my finding out why abstinence-only programs don’t work as effectively as comprehensive sex programs. I mean, I do appreciate the anatomical knowledge and contraceptive methods in comprehensive sex programs, but the individualistic and permissive sexual ethics that are associated with them worry me. My only hope is that, even if young people receive comprehensive sex education, they would nevertheless favor abstinence until marriage or lifelong commitment for emotional, social, financial, and spiritual reasons. I understand the need to educate young people honestly (comprehensive sex education) but I also find the collectivist sexual ethics (obey your parents when it comes to sex outside of marriage) very appealing and sound (abstinence-only), because it emphasizes respect for parents and family loyalty. This discussion about sex is a way for me to discuss what leads people to do it so unintentionally, giving the rise of unintended pregnancies. That seems to conflict with consensual sex. If sex is consensual, and at least one partner refuses, then the other partner must not pressure the former into it. Yet, there seems to be overwhelming pressure for young people to have sex early, and this is alarming and frightening to me. That said, I think my view sounds more older and more mature than I am. ---
**Author:** ![Umbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Umbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbridge)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/134 "2015-04-24T13:32:06Z")
I have read dozens of narratives from the Casual Sex Project. > **[Casual Sex Project | Real Hookup Stories by Real People](https://casualsexproject.com)** > > Search Stories Sex Hacker Pro Pleasure Personality Quiz Lover Style Quiz Masterclass Got Something To Share? Debunk Sex Myths Like Podcasts? | Casual Sex Project There are many and various sexual encounters. I focused more on heterosexual pairings. In the heterosexual pairings, many performed vaginal sex in the missionary position and some changed positions. None of them mentioned the female pelvic thrusts. Male pelvic thrusts were mentioned, but I never found any evidence for the female pelvic thrust. I even read a Romance novel about seven years ago, with dozens of sex scenes, and none of them mentioned the female pelvic thrust. Though, to be fair, the male pelvic thrust wasn’t mentioned either. But that was seven years ago, and I didn’t know about any thrusting behavior whatsoever. Even if the female pelvic thrust were universally present, then it must have been irrelevant to put in, relative to the male thrust. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/135 "2015-04-24T13:34:33Z")
Keep thinking. Your views sound like the views of a teenaged girl, as this thread reveals. Thinking you know what’s best for everybody, though you lack any actual experience is often seen in high school aged children. Where do you live? Are you in the US or some other country? You should worry less about everybody else’s moral choices, those are for them to make and suffer whatever consequences come. Just worry about you. And look up asexual. Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Umbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Umbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbridge)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/136 "2015-04-24T13:45:13Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > That is because it is not a goal. It is just something that most people do. That would be like asking someone what their highest goal would be and noting that no one said “To eat supper.” But there was an actual list of things to choose from. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/137 "2015-04-24T13:58:56Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > I have read dozens of narratives from the Casual Sex Project. > > [http://thecasualsexproject.com](http://thecasualsexproject.com) > > There are many and various sexual encounters. I focused more on heterosexual pairings. In the heterosexual pairings, many performed vaginal sex in the missionary position and some changed positions. None of them mentioned the female pelvic thrusts. Male pelvic thrusts were mentioned, but I never found any evidence for the female pelvic thrust. I even read a Romance novel about seven years ago, with dozens of sex scenes, and none of them mentioned the female pelvic thrust. Though, to be fair, the male pelvic thrust wasn’t mentioned either. But that was seven years ago, and I didn’t know about any thrusting behavior whatsoever. Even if the female pelvic thrust were universally present, then it must have been irrelevant to put in, relative to the male thrust. Do you make room for the possibility that a narrative description of the sex act might not include every single motion done by the participants? It occurs to me that someone with your interests would benefit more from watching than from reading narrative descriptions. Unfortunately, pornography is seldom a realistic depiction of sexual technique either. Much pornography is concerned about the views and angles the camera is getting, a concern that would be absent in a real encounter. I am not, myself, a connoisseur of porn, but perhaps there’s a series, director, or title that would serve as an educational visual introduction to the many ways people thrust while having sex. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/138 "2015-04-24T14:08:11Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > Actually, it’s not about me at all. It’s just my finding out why abstinence-only programs don’t work as effectively as comprehensive sex programs. I mean, I do appreciate the anatomical knowledge and contraceptive methods in comprehensive sex programs, but the individualistic and permissive sexual ethics that are associated with them worry me. My only hope is that, even if young people receive comprehensive sex education, they would nevertheless favor abstinence until marriage or lifelong commitment for emotional, social, financial, and spiritual reasons. I understand the need to educate young people honestly (comprehensive sex education) but I also find the collectivist sexual ethics (obey your parents when it comes to sex outside of marriage) very appealing and sound (abstinence-only), because it emphasizes respect for parents and family loyalty. This discussion about sex is a way for me to discuss what leads people to do it so unintentionally, giving the rise of unintended pregnancies. That seems to conflict with consensual sex. If sex is consensual, and at least one partner refuses, then the other partner must not pressure the former into it. Yet, there seems to be overwhelming pressure for young people to have sex early, and this is alarming and frightening to me. > > That said, I think my view sounds more older and more mature than I am. I find that I disagree with your final sentence, but, ummm, thank you for your candor. ---
**Author:** ![Umbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Umbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbridge)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/139 "2015-04-24T14:20:53Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Do you make room for the possibility that a narrative description of the sex act might not include every single motion done by the participants? > > It occurs to me that someone with your interests would benefit more from watching than from reading narrative descriptions. > > Unfortunately, pornography is seldom a realistic depiction of sexual technique either. Much pornography is concerned about the views and angles the camera is getting, a concern that would be absent in a real encounter. I am not, myself, a connoisseur of porn, but perhaps there’s a series, director, or title that would serve as an educational visual introduction to the many ways people thrust while having sex. MRI Sex. The male pelvic thrust was most pronounced. The female pelvic thrust was not as pronounced. The female movement might be caused by the male movement. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242/140 "2015-04-24T14:24:41Z")
> [@Umbridge](#): > > But there was an actual list of things to choose from. Was “pelvic thrusting” on that list? Or was this like the interview portion of a beauty pageant - [QUOTE=A Hypothetical Contestant Who Would Get My Vote] “If I win, I will use my title to publicize the important need to spay and neuter your pets, fight homelessness, and pelvic thrusting.” [/QUOTE] Regards, Shodan [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-sex-questions-that-starts-with-some-sort-of-complaint-about-previous-threads-edited-title/718242.md?page=8)