# Odd things you notice in movies after the zillionth viewing **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 11, 2005, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672 "2005-10-11T01:10:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672/101 "2006-12-20T18:29:50Z")
Getting back to the **Wizard of Oz** , another thing I didn’t notice until the zillionth time is that Dorothy’s pig-tails fluctuate in length from scene to scene. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672/102 "2006-12-20T18:40:26Z")
[QUOTE=The New and Improved Superman] Getting back to the **Wizard of Oz** , another thing I didn’t notice until the zillionth time is that Dorothy’s pig-tails fluctuate in length from scene to scene. [/QUOTE] Not just from scene to scene, but within some scenes, too. In the scene where she meets the Scarecrow, and he does his “If I Only Had A Brain” song, her pigtails grow and shrink magically from cut to cut. First they’re really short and curly, then they’re really long, then they’re medium-length. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672/103 "2006-12-20T21:16:39Z")
[QUOTE=brewha] Yeah, it probably doesn’t make sense to nitpick a year+ old post, but in that scene, she says, " Tis a fair _court_". [/QUOTE] I’ve heard the British expression, “It’s a fair cop” before. It means “You got me. I’m guilty.” And that is exactly what the witch says. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672/104 "2006-12-20T21:39:50Z")
[QUOTE=a35362] I noticed that scene, as an example of a movie cliche I see all the time. I think of it as the “No, I’m Not Gay” Moment: any kind of reference to the opposite sex, presumably thrown in to reassure us that the character is, in fact, heterosexual. For example, the beginning of _The Fellowship of the Ring_ when Frodo is trying to get Sam to ask Rosie to dance: we are being told that No, They’re Just Good Friends. Because if we didn’t tell you that, you know, things might start to look weird, ahem. [/QUOTE] If that’s all they could come up with to counteract the overwhelming gay hobbit undertone in the Peter Jackson _LotR_ movies, they fell badly short of the goal. The “hobbits jumping on Frodo’s bed” scene at the end of _RotK_ alone should have required at least a trip to the hobbit titty bar (titty tavern, perhaps? Probably in Bree) to balance it out. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672/105 "2006-12-20T22:17:57Z")
“Hey. They’re not gay. They’re hobbits.” -Clerks 2 ---
**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672/106 "2006-12-21T03:53:52Z")
[QUOTE=Harmonious Discord] They also were shiny new, so they had non rusting iron. [/QUOTE] Actually, everything suddenly fits! A friend of mine pointed out to me just last week that, after two hundred years of dark, damp, and hungry termites, the wooden stairs and the ropes for the elevator should have been nothing more than a pile of rotted vegetation at the bottom of the shaft. Seems like a filmmaker error, at first. But add in the shiny, modern nails holding it together, and it becomes obvious … _Someone had found the hidden cache, probably during the twentieth century, and re-built those parts of the structure!_ Either they didn’t find the last secret door, or left the treasure for some reason. Maybe they’ll explain what happened in the sequel. Duh. Of _course_ there will be a sequel! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672/107 "2006-12-21T05:48:13Z")
[QUOTE=BMalion] Well that explains Charlie Callas. [/QUOTE] Charlie Callas started out a drummer who would make faces behind the singer’s back. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672/108 "2006-12-21T06:04:52Z")
Chiming in with another film with no female characters: _Twelve Angry Men_. ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672/109 "2006-12-21T15:51:01Z")
[QUOTE=SCSimmons] Duh. Of _course_ there will be a sequel! :smack: [/QUOTE] [Of course.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0465234/) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Lovely\_Margo\_Lane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@The\_Lovely\_Margo\_Lane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Lovely_Margo_Lane)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672/110 "2006-12-21T18:49:24Z")
[QUOTE=Sublight] This may not measure up with some of the others mentioned, but it’s one I just noticed. At the beginning of _The Godfather_, when Don Corleone is granting favors, one of the people who comes to him is an old baker who asks for help with getting the proper papers for his young assistant to stay in America. Later, when Michael is is freaking at the hospital because all his father’s guards have been sent away, a young man who identifies himself as Enzo the baker arrives with flowers for the Don. It’s the same guy the Don helped with his papers at the beginning of the film. [/QUOTE] I noticed this the last time I saw _The Godfather_ too. To me, it showed a lot of the differences between Michael and his father. Enzo showed up at the hospital, not to ask for a favor or to try to turn the situation to his advantage, but because he loved the Don and wanted to show his concern. The fact that he ended up helping Michael to save his life is almost beyond the point. The original Godfather did despicable thigs, but they were always motivated by his love for his family, an ‘honest’ attempt to build a life. For him, family and friends really were the most important things, and his people would go to the ends of the earth for him in return. Michael doesn’t have these qualities, and when he is the head of the family, he cares about them only as reflections of his own power and pride, and so he ends up losing everything. I guess I understood these things before, but thinking about the scenes with Enzo really crystallized it. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672/111 "2006-12-21T19:09:05Z")
[quote=Sublight This may not measure up with some of the others mentioned, but it’s one I just noticed. At the beginning of The Godfather, when Don Corleone is granting favors, one of the people who comes to him is an old baker who asks for help with getting the proper papers for his young assistant to stay in America. Later, when Michael is is freaking at the hospital because all his father’s guards have been sent away, a young man who identifies himself as Enzo the baker arrives with flowers for the Don. It’s the same guy the Don helped with his papers at the beginning of the film.[/quote] [QUOTE=The Lovely Margo Lane] I noticed this the last time I saw _The Godfather_ too. To me, it showed a lot of the differences between Michael and his father. Enzo showed up at the hospital, not to ask for a favor or to try to turn the situation to his advantage, but because he loved the Don and wanted to show his concern. The fact that he ended up helping Michael to save his life is almost beyond the point. [/QUOTE] I didn’t notice these things until I read the book this year. Then I thought back to the movie and said “Oh, right.” ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672/112 "2007-01-04T19:26:03Z")
[QUOTE=Hypno-Toad] I’ve heard the British expression, “It’s a fair cop” before. It means “You got me. I’m guilty.” And that is exactly what the witch says. [/QUOTE] I stand corrected and apologize for assuming I was right. The phrase didn’t make sense to me, while 'Tis a fair court does. Those crazy Brits and their made up expressions :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Kizarvexius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/da6949/32.png) [@Kizarvexius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kizarvexius)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672/113 "2007-02-27T19:50:01Z")
In reference to the Disney version of _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_: So if Quasimodo’s parents are Gypsies, why does he have pale skin and light brown hair? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odd-things-you-notice-in-movies-after-the-zillionth-viewing/325672.md?page=5)