# Odonnell beats Castle in Delaware **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 15, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798 "2010-09-15T02:21:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/201 "2010-10-14T03:59:03Z")
> [@Snowboarder Bo](#): > > In other words, you have nothing. No, YOU have nothing! šŸ˜ƒ I simply described how that likely came to be. > [@Snowboarder Bo](#): > > Why would you assume sheā€™s telling the truth now when sheā€™s lied about both the tax lien and her mortgage problems before? Who said Iā€™m assuming anything? All I did was offer a likely explanation as to why you couldnā€™t find an IRS admission online stating that theyā€™d made a mistake on her taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/202 "2010-10-14T04:17:03Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > > [@Snowboarder Bo](#): > > > > In other words, you have nothing. > > No, YOU have nothing! šŸ˜ƒ > > I simply described how that likely came to be. What is your evidence for ā€œlikelyā€? > [@Starving Artist](#): > > > [@Snowboarder Bo](#): > > > > Why would you assume sheā€™s telling the truth now when sheā€™s lied about both the tax lien and her mortgage problems before? > > Who said Iā€™m assuming anything? All I did was offer a likely explanation as to why you couldnā€™t find an IRS admission online stating that theyā€™d made a mistake on her taxes. You said you were assuming she was telling the truth. > [@Starving Artist](#): > > Assuming that sheā€™s telling the truth, they probably acknowledged it during a phone call or by private letter. Why would you assume that, when she already lied about it in the past? ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/203 "2010-10-14T04:20:43Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > We fought the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 1980s and 1990s? We did? :smack: How did I miss that? Well, in the 1980s anyway, by proxy. ---
**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/204 "2010-10-14T04:25:13Z")
I donā€™t know that the IRS can or is even legally allowed to comment on a previous legal matter like that, whether to refute or support Oā€™Donnellā€™s statements. Have they done it before? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/205 "2010-10-14T04:26:45Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > We fought the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 1980s and 1990s? We did? :smack: How did I miss that? > > Well, in the 1980s anyway, by proxy. She specifically said we fought the Soviets during those times, is the point. She doesnā€™t have a good grasp of recent history. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/206 "2010-10-14T04:34:07Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > What is your evidence for ā€œlikelyā€? :rolleyes: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > You said you were assuming she was telling the truth. No, I didnā€™t. I _suggested_ that if one were to assume that sheā€™s telling the truth, the likely explanation to your not being able to find evidence of it on the internet was that the IRS had not posted it to the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/207 "2010-10-14T06:05:11Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Assuming that sheā€™s telling the truth, they probably acknowledged it during a phone call or by private letter. On her website is a section titled [Christine Counters](http://www.christine2010.com/counters), in which she claims to refute the charges against her. Regarding the IRS lien is a link to [this transcript](http://www.docstoc.com/docs/54514047/IRS-Call-Transcription) of a telephone call with an IRS agent. In the call the agent says the letter was sent to her automatically by a computer, but does not say that it was in error. Doesnā€™t anybody around here research these things anymore? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/208 "2010-10-14T06:51:56Z")
Was I supposed to research it? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/209 "2010-10-14T07:08:03Z")
Well, instead of talking about assumptions and probablies, some people might be interested in what actually happened. This election isnā€™t just a hypothetical exercise. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@Captain\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/210 "2010-10-14T07:32:25Z")
Does anyone here think that Chrisintine Oā€™Donnell is really beutiful and would like to have sex with her? I would. I think sheā€™s gorgeous. Iā€™ve said it before. Sheā€™s unmarried. I wonder if any lucky man gets to tap that ass? I am sure her office fields hundreds of weirdoes like me who wants to marry her or worse. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/211 "2010-10-14T07:46:58Z")
> [@Captain\_Midnight](#): > > Does anyone here think that Chrisintine Oā€™Donnell is really beutiful and would like to have sex with her? I would. I think sheā€™s gorgeous. Iā€™ve said it before. No. I can certainly see how someone else could have that opinion, but she just doesnā€™t do it for me. Eye of the beholder, and all that. I donā€™t know how Iā€™d cope with the cognitive dissonance of a politician who I thought was manifestly unqualified but also drop-dead gorgeous. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/212 "2010-10-14T08:07:59Z")
> [@Captain\_Midnight](#): > > Does anyone here think that Chrisintine Oā€™Donnell is really beutiful and would like to have sex with her? I would. I think sheā€™s gorgeous. Iā€™ve said it before. > > Sheā€™s unmarried. I wonder if any lucky man gets to tap that ass? I am sure her office fields hundreds of weirdoes like me who wants to marry her or worse. Sheā€™s a cutie. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/213 "2010-10-14T11:19:40Z")
Itā€™s the Sarah Palin syndrome, compared against other female politicians sheā€™s drop dead gorgeous. Compared to regular women sheā€™s merely average. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/214 "2010-10-14T12:15:31Z")
> [@Captain\_Midnight](#): > > Does anyone here think that Chrisintine Oā€™Donnell is really beutiful and would like to have sex with her? I would. I think sheā€™s gorgeous. Iā€™ve said it before. > > Sheā€™s unmarried. I wonder if any lucky man gets to tap that ass? I am sure her office fields hundreds of weirdoes like me who wants to marry her or worse. Since she doesnā€™t believe in either premarital sex or masturbation, thereā€™s a good chance she has never known pleasure. On the plus side, sheā€™d be in no position to critique your technique or the result. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/215 "2010-10-14T12:32:19Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > What is your evidence for ā€œlikelyā€? > > :rolleyes: > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > You said you were assuming she was telling the truth. > > No, I didnā€™t. I _suggested_ that if one were to assume that sheā€™s telling the truth, the likely explanation to your not being able to find evidence of it on the internet was that the IRS had not posted it to the internet. Again: why would you (or anyone) assume that she is telling the truth now, when itā€™s a known fact that sheā€™s lied about this in the past? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/216 "2010-10-14T12:39:15Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > > [@Captain\_Midnight](#): > > > > Does anyone here think that Chrisintine Oā€™Donnell is really beutiful and would like to have sex with her? I would. I think sheā€™s gorgeous. Iā€™ve said it before. > > > > Sheā€™s unmarried. I wonder if any lucky man gets to tap that ass? I am sure her office fields hundreds of weirdoes like me who wants to marry her or worse. > > Since she doesnā€™t believe in either premarital sex or masturbation, thereā€™s a good chance she has never known pleasure. On the plus side, sheā€™d be in no position to critique your technique or the result. she dabbled in sexuality before she decided against it. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/217 "2010-10-14T14:20:04Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > > [@Chefguy](#): > > > > Wow. That was a revelation. The woman is a scatterbrain and a true Palin clone. Coons is well-spoken and stuck to the topic at hand. Oā€™Donnell was all over the place. I had to laugh at ā€œlock step and barrelā€, though. > > Surprisingly, it appears that this idiom has been around for a while. [Cite](http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=208) > > Note that several times the term is used to disparage conservatives: > > \*ā€œLike their conservative counterparts they expect all Democrats to follow the liberal line, lock, step, and barrel.ā€ > > ā€œThe Bush administration is in lock-step-and barrel with the oil industry.ā€ > > ā€œThat is interesting and it points to how many of the congregants of these > megachurches arenā€™t always lock, step and barrel behind their ā€œspiritual leaders.ā€\* > > šŸ˜ƒ > > So in that context it isnā€™t surprising that that little hottā€¦uh, I mean it isnā€™t surprising that Oā€™Donnell picked it up somewhere along the way. Damn. . .There are a lot of malapropisms out there, but Iā€™d never heard that one until now. It doesnā€™t even make any sense when said that way, and totally disregards itā€™s origins. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/218 "2010-10-14T14:31:00Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > > > Why would it? Whenā€™s the last time youā€™ve seen an internet posting by the IRS saying that it had screwed up on some taxpayerā€™s taxes and that they didnā€™t owe money after all? > > She made the claim that the IRS admitted their error. Where? When? To whom? Why canā€™t I find evidence of it? Ummā€¦hello? IRS=Government. Government=Never Right. Therefore, itā€™s a completely tautology. You going to argue with 1 \< 2 next? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/219 "2010-10-14T14:38:53Z")
> [@Captain\_Midnight](#): > > Does anyone here think that Chrisintine Oā€™Donnell is really beutiful and would like to have sex with her? I would. I think sheā€™s gorgeous. Iā€™ve said it before. > > Sheā€™s unmarried. I wonder if any lucky man gets to tap that ass? I am sure her office fields hundreds of weirdoes like me who wants to marry her or worse. It is a little weird that she hasnā€™t been married. Usually women with her ideology marry relatively early. I was in a Baptist Bible Study in college; one of the weird characteristics of the group was that couples in the group would marry before most of their friends knew they were dating. Then again, I recently met a conservative christian who was still ā€œsaving herselfā€ at age 30, so I guess Ms. Oā€™Donnell is not alone. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798/220 "2010-10-14T15:20:25Z")
> [@Captain\_Midnight](#): > > Does anyone here think that Chrisintine Oā€™Donnell is really beutiful and would like to have sex with her? I would. I think sheā€™s gorgeous. Iā€™ve said it before. > > Sheā€™s unmarried. I wonder if any lucky man gets to tap that ass? I am sure her office fields hundreds of weirdoes like me who wants to marry her or worse. Iā€™d do her. But then again Iā€™d also do Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann. Any women that nutty have to be wild in the sack. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/odonnell-beats-castle-in-delaware/553798.md?page=12)