# Of course a nine-year-old girl can handle a Uzi, right?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 27, 2014, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631 "2014-08-27T14:12:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/61 "2014-08-27T20:19:38Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I’d understood that such weapons were tightly regulated, though. Either I was wrong, or ‘tightly regulated’ has different meanings to different people.

Probably the same meaning as “well regulated” in the Constitution where “well” apparently means “almost not at all”.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/62 "2014-08-27T20:27:25Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Too bad this didn’t happen in Reno.

Oh well, I was already going to hell for laughing at some of the other comments earlier in the thread.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/63 "2014-08-27T20:46:07Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Hmmm. In the IDF, Uzis are usually issued to women (M-16s and Galils to men). At least AFAIR a while ago. Of course, they are rarely fired full-auto.

And under no circumstances whatsoever are they \*ever \*fired without the stock open and pressed to the shoulder or hip. I mean, for fuck’s sake. It may have been 21 years since I qualified on the Uzi, but at least I remember _that_.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/64 "2014-08-27T20:48:46Z")

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I feel so sorry for that little girl.

All of the other issues aside, it’s insane to go from ONE practice shot to full-automatic. Had he done that with other people that he was “instructing?”

Maybe he just thought it was funny to see a little girl go full-Rambo or something.

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**Author:** ![PorchePine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@PorchePine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PorchePine)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/65 "2014-08-27T20:53:42Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Maybe you should ask your parents since they let you shoot automatic weapons at that age.

Well, they made sure I was able to handle such a weapon in single-fire mode safely before going to “full auto”. Not just fire it once, then “get 'r done!”.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/66 "2014-08-27T21:05:25Z")

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> [@OldGuy](#):
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> Probably the same meaning as “well regulated” in the Constitution where “well” apparently means “almost not at all”.

“Well regulated” in the Second Amendment arguably meaning “in good working order”, instead of “lots of regulations”.

[Cite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Meaning_of_.22well_regulated_militia.22)

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/67 "2014-08-27T21:20:14Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Maybe he just thought it was funny to see a little girl go full-Rambo or something.

Well, as there’s a video, someone was thinking of YouTube humor.

Joke’s on them.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/68 "2014-08-27T21:35:57Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Of the two of you, you aren’t the one that’s confused, believe me.

Knock off the personal insults.

No warning issued.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/69 "2014-08-27T21:44:28Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> Knock off the personal insults.
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> No warning issued.
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> **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

Fair cop. Will do.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/70 "2014-08-27T21:50:43Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Man, that kid’s life is ruined. How do you get over having shot and killed a guy at 9? ☹

No, her life isn’t fucking ruined. She’ll get over it.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/71 "2014-08-27T22:04:05Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> No, her life isn’t fucking ruined. She’ll get over it.

How long did it take you to get over the guy you killed when you were 9?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/72 "2014-08-27T22:23:39Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> “Adult” = 18yo in this case. And no one said otherwise. But it is still considered a “girl’s weapon” 🙂

Huh? Your comments have made no sense. A firearm assigned to adult women by the IDF is considered a ‘girl’s weapon’? Girl’s weapons are like, fairy wands to turn their little brothers into unicorns, or whining to accompany their big brother while he walks to the store with his girlfriend. That sort of thing.

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**Author:** ![PorchePine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@PorchePine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PorchePine)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/73 "2014-08-27T22:25:04Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Huh? Your comments have made no sense. A firearm assigned to adult women by the IDF is considered a ‘girl’s weapon’? Girl’s weapons are like, fairy wands to turn their little brothers into unicorns, or whining to accompany their big brother while he walks to the store with his girlfriend. That sort of thing.

Israelis are a tougher bunch than most nationalities.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/74 "2014-08-27T22:27:03Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> Another “range expert” makes the rest of us look like negligent idiots.
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> When I teach younger people to shoot rifles, it’s a .22 bolt-action with great diligence practiced.

I started out with a .22 semi-automatic rifle and a .22 Colt revolver when I was twelve. I can’t imagine my father thinking it would have been a good idea to hand me an Uzi. I really hope these kinds of ranges take a good hard look at their policies and raise the minimum age.

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> I’m still a little confused of how “possess” under the NFA has been interpreted to mean “you can borrow someone’s NFA weapon and fire it with impunity.” How is this legal? By claiming they were “instructing” a 9-year-old who wouldn’t be eligible to buy an Uzi under NFA for 12 more years?

I’m not a lawyer so in this context I’m not sure what possess means in a legal sense. If a buddy and mine are plinking at cans on the family farm with my .22 is the rifle still in my possession if I let him take a few shots? I still own it. We’re still on my property. I don’t believe the laws should prevent everyone but the owner from firing the weapon. But then I can scarcely believe someone would think it’s a great idea to hand an Uzi to a little girl.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/75 "2014-08-27T22:30:24Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Huh? Your comments have made no sense. A firearm assigned to adult women by the IDF is considered a ‘girl’s weapon’? Girl’s weapons are like, fairy wands to turn their little brothers into unicorns, or whining to accompany their big brother while he walks to the store with his girlfriend. That sort of thing.

Ok. Just for you - it’s considered a “womyn weapon”.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/76 "2014-08-27T22:31:07Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> World opinion is of no importance in this matter. It is a matter that needs to be decided by Americans.

Right. Because since stupidity got us into this mess it’s up to stupidity to get us out. Stop helping **Scumpup** , please.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/77 "2014-08-27T22:35:05Z")

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Ugh, this story is so awful.

I learned gun safety at about age 9. I also learned to shoot small rifles (BB guns and a .22). All under VERY close supervision by my father (who also learned to shoot at a very young age and had been in the military as well).

But at no time did my dad say, “Hey, let’s give you a fully automatic AK-47.” Because he’s not an idiot.

And the parents were idiots, as was the “instructor”. Idiots.

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**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/78 "2014-08-27T22:37:16Z")

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The instructor deserves a Darwin Award.

Oops – sorry, the OP already said it!!! But it’s true!!

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/79 "2014-08-27T22:39:38Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> “Adult” = 18yo in this case. And no one said otherwise. But it is still considered a “girl’s weapon” 🙂

It’s only because of the [Hello Kitty paint job…](http://www.glamguns.com/hk47.html)

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/80 "2014-08-27T22:45:16Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Ok. Just for you - it’s considered a “womyn weapon”.

Heh, allegedly, the Israelis have phased it out for use with their armed forces, as “antiquated”. They now use the Tavor.

[http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-12-18-uzi\_x.htm](http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-12-18-uzi_x.htm)

This caught my eye:

> [@](#):
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> The Uzi, while still used by the U.S. Secret Service, is also beloved of gangs in the United States because of its reputation as “a macho weapon,” said gun expert Tim Brown of [Globalsecurity.org](http://Globalsecurity.org).

Macho in the US = girly in Israel? 😃

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