# Of course a nine-year-old girl can handle a Uzi, right?

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**Created:** [August 27, 2014, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631 "2014-08-27T14:12:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/161 "2014-08-29T17:05:23Z")

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The kicker to that, of course, is the word “qualified.”

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/162 "2014-08-29T17:37:11Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> By contrast, seven American high school football players were killed last fall from on-field injuries. A school-age user is much safer firing an uzi under qualified adult supervision, than on a football field on a Friday night.

This ignores the fact that about a million high school kids play football every year. How many high-school age kids fire a Uzi each year? Even with only a couple of fatalities, the rate is going to be much higher than high school football players.

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/163 "2014-08-29T17:44:12Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> This ignores the fact that about a million high school kids play football every year. How many high-school age kids fire a Uzi each year? Even with only a couple of fatalities, the rate is going to be much higher than high school football players.

Up thread we were told that hundreds of kids fire Uzis everyday, so multiply that by 365 and you get, what, like a billion or something?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/164 "2014-08-29T17:54:12Z")

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> [@lost4life](#):
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> Up thread we were told that hundreds of kids fire Uzis everyday, so multiply that by 365 and you get, what, like a billion or something?

Yep, told by a guy that linked to a place that doesn’t let 9 year olds fire Uzis at all. 😃

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/165 "2014-08-29T17:56:11Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> This ignores the fact that about a million high school kids play football every year. How many high-school age kids fire a Uzi each year? Even with only a couple of fatalities, the rate is going to be much higher than high school football players.

It’s not about the rate, but about the societal tolerance for the activity in spite of obvious inherent dangers. More than a simple tolerance, but a community-wide encouragement of underdeveloped people participating in a contact sport.

If you wish to explore a mathematical formula for rate, consider that a kid gets killed in a 3-hour window between 7 and 10 PM almost every Friday night during football season. Uzi-totin’ kids are at it 3-4,000 hours a year.

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/166 "2014-08-29T19:15:09Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> Aren’t they pretty ineffective anyway? I’m pretty sure I saw a number of episodes of a documentary called the A-Team in which it was shown that you can spray all over the place with an Uzi and it will just cause the bad guys to scatter without anyone actually getting hurt.

Those were Ruger Mini-14s, not Uzis.

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/167 "2014-08-29T19:29:02Z")

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Instructor messed up, paid the full price for his mistake.

My kids:  
Started on .22 bolt action Henry rifles  
Graduated to various higher caliber rifles  
Shotguns were started with a .410, then 20 gauge, then 12 gauge.

Once they had the upper body strength - 9mm pistols with only a single round. This way the recoil wouldn’t result in a second round being fired through the roof. I like to check out the sun shade / roof of outdoor firing ranges to see how many rounds have gone high. Every now and then you can see a hole from a combination of recoil and the shooter holding onto the trigger. You get a few news articles on that from time to time like this one:

[http://www.mrcolionnoir.com/news/woman-dies-after-accidentally-shooting-herself-in-the-head-at-missouri-gun-range/](http://www.mrcolionnoir.com/news/woman-dies-after-accidentally-shooting-herself-in-the-head-at-missouri-gun-range/)

And yes, if they were following all of the rules, they got to try out the full autos we own. I have a picture of my son at 9 firing a Mac 10 on full auto. The picture includes his grandfather maintaining complete control of the situation.

So it can be done safely.

It can also result in tragedy when someone takes their eyes off of the situation, or does not follow all protocol.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/of-course-a-nine-year-old-girl-can-handle-a-uzi-right/696631/168 "2014-08-29T20:32:54Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Yep, told by a guy that linked to a place that doesn’t let 9 year olds fire Uzis at all. 😃

Sheesh, give it a rest already, don’t you have anything else better to do than to be lazy and throw crap around?

I’ve shot at Front Sight, I’m a member there, and I know they have let young’uns shoot full auto. They have excellent training and, if done correctly, a young frail little girl can shoot full auto. I said elsewhere exactly how and where Vacca went wrong - IMO, of course.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> WTF? You gave that cite as a response to your claim that hundreds of 9 year old girls safely fire off Uzis.

I did not. You misquoted me. Read - carefully - what I wrote.  
I’ve shot full auto here, and they allow youths to shoot:

> **[Celeritas Shooting Club Budapest](https://www.celeritas-sch.com/terms-conditions-4.html)**
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> Celeritas Shooting Club was founded in 2001 to popularize shooting sports. Founders of the Club are all former police officers and firearms instructors.

Check this place out:

> **[FAQs | Las Vegas’ Original Gun Store & Range | The Gun Store](https://thegunstorelasvegas.com/faq/)**
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> Get your gun range questions answered here. At The Gun Store, our staff will happily answer any question you may have. Check out our FAQs or give us a call!

This, after only a couple of minutes of searching.

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